WASHINGTON - “Scurrilous” and “disingenuous” were among the words a top Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives used on Thursday to describe Hillary Clinton’s campaign tactics in her bid to defeat Barack Obama for their party’s presidential nomination.
House Democratic Whip James Clyburn, of South Carolina and the highest ranking black in Congress, also said he has heard speculation that Clinton is staying in the race only to try to derail Obama and pave the way for her to make another White House run in 2012.
“I heard something, the first time yesterday (in South Carolina), and I heard it on the (House) floor today, which is telling me there are African Americans who have reached the decision that the Clintons know that she can’t win this. But they’re hell-bound to make it impossible for Obama to win” in November, Clyburn told Reuters in an interview.
Obama holds a sizable lead in delegates won in state-nominating contests which could be hard for her to overcome.
The purported theory is that an Obama defeat in November against Republican presidential candidate John McCain would let Clinton make another presidential bid in four years, Clyburn said.
Clyburn has not yet declared whether he supports Clinton or Obama. But in January, he raised his concerns about the heated exchanges between the two campaigns before the South Carolina primary.
On Thursday, Clyburn took Clinton and surrogates to task, complaining that they want the popular votes in Michigan and Florida counted, even though both states violated party rules for the early scheduling of their nominating contests.
“I think it’s so disingenuous … (adviser James) Carville and Sen. Clinton were all on TV. I’ve seen them two or three times this week, talking about counting Florida and Michigan.”
Obama did not campaign in those states because the Democratic Party said Florida and Michigan wouldn’t be included in the formal tally for the nomination. “Her name was the only one on the ticket in Michigan and still 42, 43 percent of the vote was against her,” Clyburn said.
Still, Clyburn said “I don’t think she ought to drop out.”
But he added, “There’s a difference between dropping out and raising all this extraneous scurrilous stuff about the guy (Obama). Just run your campaign … you don’t have to drop out to be respectful of other people.”
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Wow…wow..wow… Another black fanatic.. Man, what’s going on with these guys?. Nobody can say or do anything because they immediately say we are racist or are conspiring against black community, Stop it!!. This guy can take Barry Hussein and Wright to his home and leave us all Americans alone…
- Posted by MannyThis represents a serious problem for the Clinton campaign. Without stong and enthusiatic turnout in the African-American community, she CANNOT WIN (especially after her disaterous performance among Independents, the largest voter group, in all primaries to date.) If she cannot immediately make peace with the African-American, the most loyal base in the Party, the superdelegates, who understand the danger, may well start going to Obama in droves.
- Posted by PhrankHillary’s repeated attempts to assert to validity of the Michigan and Florida primaries rank even in my mind with her repeated fiction of her experience in Bosnia.
Some of us thought she was ‘pretty good’ before this contest, but both she and Bill have shown they are peas in a pod, ethically unworthy to return to the White House.
- Posted by Paul TinkerIt won’t be happening for Hillary in 2012. The demographics will be totally against her, as they probably will be against McCain this year, if Obama is the Democratic nominee. Hillary knows this. She knows that this is her last chance because she should have run in 2004.
- Posted by Antero PietilaThose interested in delving into demographics further should read an excellent book, “Millenial Makeover: MySpace, YouTube & the Future of American Politics.”
Hey, all you Hillary and Obama supporters,
Stop fighting like my 2 kids!
I swear I’ve seen better cooperation in day cares and kindergartens! Y’all sound like it’s a fight between 2 extreme ends of the spectrum. Well, I think you’re nuts! They’re about as far apart as 2 peas in a pod. I like Obama BUT if Hillary wins then I’m voting for her.
The LAST thing we need is another Republican in the White House.
Hillary Supporters – If Obama is the nominee and you vote for McCain then you better not call yourselves democrats!
And all you Obama supporters – If Hillary is the nominee and you don’t vote for her then you’re a pack of 2-faced idiots and low-lifes!
After 7 1/2 years of Babbling Bush we need a president who is intelligent, articulate, cooperative, reasonable, tough, a fighter, and can read his/her own newspaper in the morning. Both our candidates can fit the bill. If they would stop fighting themselves then they could BOTH be on the ticket in November (at this point I don’t really care who’s on top)! But we’re not going to get there by fighting amongst ourselves. If anything we NEED to band together and cheer BOTH on to a victory against the Republican smear machine. Just like what they’re doing right now.
- Posted by Dave“That means she’s tough and he can’t take heat” - it’s like hitting the other team with your bat during a baseball game and blame them for not guarding themselves. Playing dirty is not the same as play fair and tough.
“We should count MI and FL votes… and Hillary would be ahead” - I’d support a re-vote, but counting the previous results is like playing a couple warm up runs in a baseball game knowing it won’t count, and halfway through the real game the losing team want to count the result from the warm up.
“Hillary would be the nominee if played by republican rules” - yeah and I’d be married to Angelina Jolie if I were Brad Pitt. So she’s saying she’d be the democrat nominee if only the democrats were republicans =).
Come on, I see many good reasons to support Hillary; but some of her main arguments like the above are getting more and more ridiculous even laughable.
- Posted by fooI can’t believe this guy. If he isn’t setting the scene for Obama who is? He is playing the race card, getting African Americans to believe Clinton is out to destroy Obama. When will this end? Obama has brought his bad press on himself, even then the media has blamed Hillary and idolized him. Why shouldn’t she point out his weaknesses, he has always done that to her behind the scenes. If there is racism in this election it is that everyone is called a racist if they say anything about Obama. And it’s black voters that are suspiciously voting on race. Never before would an African American turn their back on a Clinton after all the good they’ve done to promote diversity. Obama is not the best candidate. If he is elected in Nov.(which is doubtful)he will be setting himself up for failure because he CAN’T DO THE JOB. Maybe next time, but not now.
- Posted by Lesley - VancouverThe apt Clinton campaign descriptor has begged to be said, and has been long over due. Thank you Representative Clyburn, and thanks to Reuters for its publication. And now it cry’s for a strong concurrence of other Democrat leaders. Now before the Clinton’s insatiable lust for power destroys the Democratic party, and with it, the hopes and ideals of this new generation of Americans.
- Posted by Ron AltmanThat’s a great idea, Dave. But it sure wouldn’t hurt to have Hillary stop the destructive behavior in the meantime.
- Posted by BobGood for Clyburn for saying so. I’ve thought so too and I’m a white woman who wants a woman president. But not one without a conscience, without grace, and without responsiveness to the whole context.
The speculation that she’s intending to be a spoiler so she can run in 2012 has been around for a few weeks. It is possible that she thinks she can win by sabotaging the convention. We can soon enough know.
- Posted by Gaias ChildTo Manny: Your “Nobody can say or do anything because they immediately say we are racist or are conspiring against black community” and “This guy can take Barry Hussein and Wright to his home and leave us all Americans alone…” is truly an oxy … MORON! Leave all Americans alone? Who are the Americans anyway? Does that include Native Americans? Columbus could have left them alone?
- Posted by JoeFinally people is ponting the real problem from the Clinton Campain. Mrs. Clinton is also misleading her fallowers with false hopes taking money from them for her death end campain, She seems to be addicted to the short term rush adrenalin high.
“All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those towards whom it is directed will understand it. Therefore, the intellectual level of the propaganda must be lower the larger the number of people who are to be influenced by it.”
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
- Posted by Alma ludivinafrom Chapter VI: War Propaganda
This isn’t the first time Clyburn has thrown a tantrum of this sort and blamed Senator Clinton for Barrack Obama’s own poor performance. And I doubt it will be the last. As for Florida and Michigan - something will obviously have to be done. You can’t shut millions of people out of the primaries and expect them to turn out to enthusiastically support the party’s nominee in the Fall - especially if their disenfranchisement causes their preferred candidate to lose the nomination! You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
- Posted by MarkMs. Clinton’s calculation is to divide the people into blacks and whites. This is the easiest way to make people mad and keep people them from focusing on what problems they face. As is obvious poor uneducated, who are easily gullible, and are the one who have fallen prey to her tactics.
Of course we cannot advise those who cannot see this. What should be credited is many people have woken up to the fact even in Pennsylvania thus reducing her margin of victory.
- Posted by kalyanSure, I’ll vote for Clinton if I must, to defeat McCain, but I no longer have any good will for her. She trashed her pretended reputation in just a month. The party grows bitter.
- Posted by Ivo TailleferWhat a misleading title! The title should be “another black politician jumps at Hillary”. Shame on you, the divider Obama!
- Posted by CarlIf Hillary is the nominee she will face Condoleza Rice who will be the next president as Mr. Mc Cain stage II melanoma has a 50% survival to 5 years, and he was diagnosed before year 2000 and alaready had a recurrence.
- Posted by Alma ludivinaUnknown yet if he has stage III?
Hi Phrank,
- Posted by CarlYour argument is quite valid. If Hillary is nominated, the African Americans will still “cling to” Hillary because they are so “bitter”. On the contrary, centrists like me strongly believe Obama is such a bad candidate. McCain will be a better choice than Obama.
Mark my words: I’m not alone, a lot of voters more than the African Americans combined know this “unite, change Washington” stuff is just crap. Obama can’t even unite Democrats. How can he “unite” the whole country? Not mention his pathetic knowledge about international issues.
Two questions for Obama
1) Your father was from Kenya, but the only father figure in your life until your teenage years was your stepfather, who is your stepfather?
2) You have stated that Pastor Wright converted you to christianity some twenty years ago, what was your religion if any prior to being converted?
- Posted by julius silvaSo the black vote doesn’t count well,I say if billary gets the nomination - we dont’t vote. This is the “land where our fathers died,” but our loyalty is questioned. people who just got off the boat are treated as american, hell i am madd as hell and i won’t take any more. Black America! their always talking about playing the race card after playing it 1st - I say play it “Don’t vote!” let the “americans” get the goverment they deserve. that’s what happen with bush, as for those who ask “what about black folks,” have you heard of katrina, how much worst can it get. out of the 40% of this nation poor 16 -17% are black, mexican, and others about 24% are white get a brain white people this estabishment doen’t give a d#@* about poore people.
- Posted by karenDave - I couldn’t have said it better! My preference by a mile is Obama, but I would vote for Clinton because the thought of another Republican — McCain — didn’t get in!
- Posted by ConnieWhy is Mr Clyburn so hurt for Obama? There should be healthy debate between Clinton and Obama including their warts! Obama is just showing his blemishes.
- Posted by Maung Maung NyoI just hope when they decide to count the votes in Michigan and Florida,they will add the score for the votes that was cated for Obama,that is when we will know you actually has the more votes casted.Go Obama !!!!!
- Posted by philHere in Chicago I witnessed the rise and fall of Obama.
About 6 months ago, I polled my friends and I found out they were either for Obama or at least considering him. (On the fence between Obama and Hillary).
We are all white ethnic suburban guys and gals who grew up in Chicago. A lot of us coming from mixed neighborhoods. Some of us have 2 year degrees from going to local tech schools.
We know Chicago, we know the politics, we have had everyone from Al Capone to our last govenor George Ryan who is in a jail cell as I write this. Our current Govoner’s name keeps coming up in the Rezko trial. I have a feeling he may be going to jail too.
When I got my first sppeding ticket 30 years ago, I got it fixed because…this is Chicago. So when I hear Obama got a sweet deal from Rezko on his house and the land next door I thought of the old saying, it’s not what you know, it’s who you know.
So, when my ticket got fixed, the guy who fixed it got money, the judge got money, my charge was dismissed. We all got something.
With Rezko and Obama…Obama got a reduced price on his house. Rezko didn’t make money on the deal because he sold it for less then what he paid, and his wife had to take a loan to buy the extra land that they sold. Since the Rezko’s didn’t make a cash profit, I guess there would be a favor that would be owed.
That’s what is exchanged in Chicago if not money. Favors can come in the form of jobs, permits, raises, dropping charges, extra garbage cans. It’s been like this for as long as I can remember.
So when we see on the news about Rezko, Wrght, Ayers, 5 killed in Chicago in one house, govoners going to jail, gang violennce, murder, guns…It’s just another news day. But when one of our own Chicago people try to break out and run for president and we know he is tied to the Chicago machine and gets caught then he is to dumb to be president. You see Mayor Daley is smart, he is part of the machine and has never been tied to anything, his father was Mayor and never tied to anything.
Obama, so young and so publicly tied in to this stuff now. He isn’t smart.
He’s not really from Chicago, he’s an outsider, he thought he could play the big man’s game, the Chicago game but, he got busted. You see, you DO have to know who to hang around with and who not to hang with or you commit politicial suicide and that’s what Obama did.
So when I polled my friends recently and they said Hillary or McCain, I knew that I had witnessed the rise and fall of Obama!!
- Posted by GhicagoguyManny,
WTF? Where did he call anybody a racist? Come on dude, you’re better than that.
- Posted by JasperSenator Clinton does what works for Senator Clinton. When Senator Obama or some of his supporters complain about Senator Clinton’s deplorable tactics, then Senator Clinton is supposedly the victim. Her negatives are very high and she is getting help from Republicans to steal the nomination from Senator Obama. Should she get the nomination, the Democrats can kiss the White House goodbye. It will be all Billary’s fault - just like their White House years sealed the deal for the current President Bush. I will vote for her, but many will not.
- Posted by Felicityto julius silva
why are you so quick to assume he was religious before being converted to christianity, if you read his book you would learn the answer to how and why he converted
- Posted by bilI believe his comments, she knows she is not going to win so she might as well destroy the man. This does not surprise me at all, these are the dirty tactics of the Clinton’s. She is a liar and I do not trust her. Enough, this has to end, and we must deal McCain ASAP and deal with the issues of the people.
- Posted by YoliClyburn is talking BS. Is he scared that Clinton might win the nom??? Oh - poor baby!!!
Clyburn - don’t create any more mess for the party. Just watch as the voters decide. OK?
- Posted by JkanWhat is up with all of this racist talk? People are not allowed to say anything at all about Obama…is that the word? Well, forget that. If you are running for a national office…particularly the TOP JOB, I want to know everything I can possibly know and I reserve the right to question anything I like about a candidate. Too bad if he can’t take the heat. The more this goes with the Obama campaign, the less impressed I am. He was supposed to be some “different” kind of candidate running a “different” kind of campaign…sorry…not buying it. He is sounding weaker and weaker lately and do I think that sounds Presidential…not so much. If he can’t take the heat now in a primary, he will never survive the general election much less be able to take what comes with the real job.
Hillary has stopped worrying about the black community supporting her much anymore…especially when Obama gets numbers like 97% of black males in one state voting for him. This is becoming more racial every day and it is increasingly unattractive to me. Both races will have to allow criticism without the whining or we, as a nation, will go nowhere.
- Posted by DrPWesleyWow, I love America politics. I hope to visit you guys someday.
- Posted by RichardHillary purports to represent working class people and
- Posted by J B Moranshe feels their pain. However, she did not send her
own daughter in D. C. to a public intergrated school
like all middle class Americans. No she went to an
exclusive mostly segregated private day school.
What hypocrisy on her part. She needs to practice
what she preaches
I am one of those lowly educated and bitter Catholic 40 something women from PA. I will NEVER vote for OBAMA and it has nothing to do with race or gender. To the contrary, since the media didn’t want to give me the facts on the junior senator because they feared that they could be called racist, they spoon fed him as the next coming of JFK. Well, JFK would have been crucified if he was in office today as he had numberious affairs while in office-remember Marilyn Monroe and Sam Giancanna’s girlfriend was also his mistresses. He too was an eloquent speaker and could charm the pants off any woman just as Obama charmed Oprah’s. So,I went and did research. Yea us uneducated people have access to the internet and can look things up.
My momma always gave me very good advice and she told me lay down with dogs wake up with flees. Mr. Obama’s friends are radicals that spew hate filled sermons and promote negative ideology of America! One of his friends who just so happened to sell him his mansion at half price is now on trial. This gentleman and I use that term loosly is a slumlord. Do you know where the houses were that he was renting. They were in Mr. Obama’s distict when asked Mr. Obama’s answer was he didn’t know but he knew enough to take the man’s contirbution to his campaign.If Mr. Obama couldn’t keep track of what was happening in his own district how I am supposed to believe that he can keep track of 50 states! Oh I forgot they were poor people. Insignificant to Mr. Obama. Mr. Obama sat in a church with Rev. Wright for 20 years and denied hearing the most unpatriotic and hate filled statements about the country that he now claims to want to be head of. Rev. Wright is linked to Louis Farrakhan. Mr. Farrakhan even went so far as to endorse Mr. Obama. And because he knew the bad press that he would receive from this endorsement he decline but the endorsement was already there. Mr. Obama is not only a black man he is also a white man. I am so tired of people forgetting that. His mother and grandparents raised him. His Kenyan father desserted him! Mr. Obama went to a private school and Harvard. My middle class children went to public schools and community college. Mr. Obama’s record for voting in the senate leaves something to be desired. He has voted present more times than taking a position on important issues. He is to be the man in charge and can’t make up his mind on issues as a senator.
In reality, he has done his senatorial duties for only 1 year as he has been campaigning for president for the other 2. He even missed the 45th Anniverary of Martin Luther King Jr. one of the most influential black men of the century to campaign. If he was so proud of his black heritage he should have been there to honor the man who gave his life so that he could have the freedoms that he has today. This in my opinion was a slap in the face to the black community. And please don’t tell me he had other engagements. He could have set aside time to honor this noble man!
We all want change as this country is a mess but remember he is going to a senate and congress that are old school and will have an uphill battle before he can get anything done! Oh and please someone tell me what is his stance on the issues as they are always vague. His speeches are filled with rhetoric about change but NOTHING specific. How can I vote for someone who can’t state his stance on the issues at hand!
And contrary to popular belief, Mr. Obama did run campaign ads in FLORIDA! And he still lost!Maybe the press should investigate this.We are the UNITED STATES which consists of 50 states not 48. Mr. Obama said he would consent when it was fair to all for a recount what he meant was when he was sure he would win. So all those saying that Clinton is playing unfair so is MR. Obama as he is supressing the votes of millions to hold onto the supposed lead he has. I also find it offensive that when he lost PA, Gov. Rendell and Mayor Nutter (WHOM I VOTED FOR) were called a racist and Uncle Tom. Why is it that when a black man doesn’t support him they are an Uncle Tom. Calling Mayor Nutter these deplorable names was the final nail in the coffin for me!
I also find it offensive that people in his camp and his supporters are allowed to make sexists remarks but let anyone make a remark that could even be considered racist and they jump all over it!
Please don’t delude yourselves into thinking that when all this is over that who ever backed the loser is going to vote for the nominee in the fall. IT AIN”T GONNA HAPPEN. US POOR WHITE TRASH HAVE MEMORIES LIKE ELEPHANTS!! AND WE ARE PATRIOTIC and the venom that was spewed by his supporters and backers is just too hard to swallow!!!!!!!
Hillary or McCain but NEVER OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Posted by Rosie From PaListening to these Obama supporters reminds me of cult followers!
- Posted by Joshua25Any criticism of this Black leftest Liberal is called racist…..
Hillary and Obama policy-wise are almost identical…increased taxes for even bigger government NON-solutions.
Wake up people
The beginning of the end for Obama when a man of Clyburn’s past and integrity he would come accross so petty.
I think this is the beginning of the Obama supporters who are panicking. They realize they can’t win and they decided too soon. It hurts to be so wrong. Poor judgement comes in all colors.
It is clear Obama is out and can’t possibly be elected. He must drop out to save face for a future race. At this point it will be hard for him to get re-elected to his current Senate seat.
- Posted by BZI can’t believe some of these people are so ignorant. People as ignorant as some of these should not be allowed to vote.
- Posted by BobbieNo wonder Mr. Clyburn used two certain words to describe his so called enemies. Those are the same two words he sees every morning in in his bathroom mirror “Scurrilous” and “disingenuous” give American a break and let your ego rest for a while congressman. Focus on helping our country not dragging it down. Maybe you should send Senator Obama your prayers and let him learn to defend himself. Political warming is not the same as global warming. We know for sure political warming is real. If Obama is wilting now he won’t have to worry about being the President.
- Posted by John BakerMcCain/Hillary is on same ticket against Obama….
- Posted by NC VoterThank you, Congressman Clyburn, for speaking out on the divisive, cynical tactics of the Clinton campaign!
For her to foment the anger of the FL and MI voters by accusing Obama of not wanting their votes to count is cynical and sleazy to the extreme. Talk about poisoning the well should he become the nominee! (He should and he will.)
All he did was strategize and compete by the agreed-upon rules, to the extent that he’s said he’ll abide by what the DNC decides. All she’s doing is gaming the system because she needs the votes.
C’mon—this is a person who can claim 328,000 MI votes for herself while giving Obama ZERO votes, and then say with a straight face that “I am so proud to have received the most votes in this race…”
Whose surrogate Rendell defended the legitimacy of her MI votes on Meet the Press by saying—when asked about Obama not being on the MI ballot—there is nothing harder than running against yourself!
Have you read the latest lie? That HRC didn’t know anything about the Weathermen pardons? She’s the one who tried to hang a non-issue on Obama. Yet, this one is a real connection….
http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/lo ngisland/politics/blog/2008/04/hill_on_b rinks_radical_i_didnt.html
Yes, scurrilous and ridiculous, indeed!
- Posted by BoomerangDemocrats = the Yugoslavia of political parties.
Factious, angry, power hungry and at each others throats with the first signs of stress.
I’m no Republican but I couldn’t imagine a worse option for the Presidency than either Democrat. Both are at best socialists and in the case of Obama probably a communist (if a persons friends and associates and backers are any measure.)
- Posted by ATMDo not threaten me with the race card. If me and millions like me feel that blacks, who are supporting their nominee in unheard of numbers, start playing that game we can call Senator McCain Mr. President. The only people saying this stuff are pro Obama. I will not vote for Senator Obama if I feel that Senator Clinton is being railroaded in any way by the Obama campaign. P.S. Senator Obama took his name off the Michigan ballot!!! Senator Clinton does not need your permission to stay in the race!!!
- Posted by cbl0213The Clintons do not fit to be Democrats anymore - everything they are doing in this campaign are undemocratic, negative,demeaning. Please go back to Arkansas and ENJOY your library. HINT: read on subjects like GMRC - whats that? Good Manners and Right Conduct! Bunch of elitists!
- Posted by gracious ChatManny reveals himself to be a giant idiot, decrying accusations of racism then referring to someone as a “black fanatic” and using Obama’s middle name as a way to scare people out of voting for him- both of which are overtly racist things to say. Moron.
And no, I’m not black, or Muslim. Just not a bigot.
- Posted by TonyHad Obama married a white woman, nobody would have ever heard of Obama. Certainly wouldn’t have the kind of black support he enjoy’s now. This is the truth and nothing but the truth.
- Posted by caniholdadollaIt doesn’t really matter. Both of the Democrat candidates are so far left-leaning and steeped in identity politics that it’ll be 1972 all over. And though I strongly dislike McCain at least he “says” he’ll shrink the bloated Federal government unlike these two brazen collectivists. No thanks.
I can’t wait till both major parties are overhauled. They both are corrupted.
- Posted by RLythgoeShame on the Clintons!
- Posted by PhilippaI really cannot stand them at this stage.So dishonest.
Julius, if you read his first book, his stepfather was an Indonesian man who divorced his mother when Obama was young (10 I believe). His mother was a spiritual agnostic, and that’s how he was raised until he felt the presence of Jesus one day in Chicago.
- Posted by TonyHey Karen. You sound rather mad about Katrina and seem to blame Bush. It seems th democratic leadership in Louisiana has done more to derail things and divert funds than the Whitehouse.
What Americans(black, white, purple, or whatever) need to unite in telling our Public servants in Washington D.C. to get to work and quit fighting. Speaking out and speaking loud to the politicians is the only way you are going to make progress. The only way they will straighten out and fly right is if ‘We the People’ tell them their jobs are on the line.
Start with writing your politicians and TELL them to fix the gas prices. Trust me when I say if they get enough nasty letters about how poorly they are doing their jobs, things will change.
- Posted by DickPlease nominate Obama! Please, please, please.
Obama will get spanked in November.
- Posted by WaitForNovemberCarl: You might not be alone, but you’re certainly in the minority. Obama consistently pummels Hillary in polls of Independents.
- Posted by daveI am so tired of all the sanctimonious calls for sweetness and light. For pete’s sake, this is a presidential race, not a coronation. Obamanites tear Hillary apart while rushing to excuse or dismiss the Jeremiah Wrights and William Ayers. Spare me.
I think Hillary will actually win the nomination now that Obama is finally getting scrutinized and showing his flaws. Thank heaven for that. I don’t want someone with a lifetime record of NO achievement in the White House. I’d prefer McCain.
- Posted by Jersey girrlI can hardly believe what I am reading. How is it possible that all the people who can’t stand lying are going to vote for one of the biggest liars in politics? Hillary can hardly open her mouth without spouting some untruth about something. However, even when its caught on video both she and former President Clinton deny they said or did what is plain to see.
- Posted by GatorDON’T FIGHT IT!
It’s all over. Obama will be the next President and anyone who votes against him is a racist.
It is time to right all the wrongs that have been done to African Americans for the past 300+ years.
As soon as President Obama takes office Mandatory slave reparations should be taken from all rich whites with incomes over $50,000.
In addition, mandatory Affirmative Action MUST be instituted for a minimum of 50% of all positions at colleges/Universities and corporations nationwide.
Naturally all African Americans in the prison system for alleged crimes against whites MUST be released immediately.
This will be a good beginning to atone for white crimes and racism.
- Posted by mohammedWhat’s a Democrat too do, support Hillary and lose the African American vote or support Obama and lose the White woman vote? Either way, McCain wins!
- Posted by Dan, St. LouisHillary wants to obliterate Iran. That is good news from her since she also helped us in our mission to obliterate Iraq.
- Posted by John BossI am sick to death of all this racist crap - I’m 72 and was a supporter of M.L.King, but am really distressed with the nonsense going on today. I won’t vote for Obama because he’s so far left, not because he’s black. Does that make me a racist? His pastor/mentor is what I call a good old KKK racist.
- Posted by LindaBHO is done. His inability to honestly answer questions Americans really want to know (Pastor Wright as his mentor, muslim heritage, friendship with a known terrorist, etc.)as well as stumbling, bumbling without a teleprompter or scripted “change” speech has opened the door for sHillary to continue her last-ditch effort for the nomination. If the Democrat party didn’t have the bogus proportioned delegates or “super delegates” this mess wouldn’t be continuing.
- Posted by TruthseekerThis is ridiculous. Whether you like her or not she should be admired. She is doing what everyone of us were told when we were young. NEVER QUIT!!!
The congressman is another black who thinks he is entitled to something because he is black.
- Posted by markI hear you Karen. People, we have been challenged by Sen. Obama to have a discussion about race. Can we now see why this is necessary? Blacks and Whites have been living together in this country for how long and still don’t know each other very well?
Why is it that so many conservatives are so suspicious of Obama instead of just talking with him to get to know him? I say that as I watch Fred Thompson talk about him being a great unknown on Fox News.
Clyburn told the truth and many people can see how selfish Hillary is and she and Bill act like they owe a debt (to China? Dubai?) that they cannot pay up on unless they get back to the White House.
She will use whatever group she has to get there. Look at how they treated Bill Richardson after, according to Penn, was no longer useful for gathering Hispanic votes.
After saying “screw them” to Bill in 1995, she heavily courts the working class vote.
I do suffer from Clinton fatigue. Can someone please just make them go away?
- Posted by gloriaI am SO enjoying watching the Democratic Party tear itself apart before my very eyes. And I’ll enjoy it even more when McCain wins in a total rout come November. I’ve gotten a lot of suckers to bet against me, so I’ll make twice as much money as I made in the last presidential election.
- Posted by Funkmaster ChrisHappy days are here again!!!
First of all, I think everyone needs to proof read what they are about to post, before they post it.(Spell check)
Clyburn never said that Hillary Clinton or anyone else was playing the race card, in fact it has been the responders to this news article who have been playing the race card, and therefore are racist.
Clyburn, like myself, is very concerned that the tactics that the Clinton campaign has been using, may split the Democratic Party, and turn people off so much, that large groups of people may not show up to vote in the fall. This is a ligitimate concern.
Obama’s campaign has not gone on the attack, Clinton’s campaign has, that is a fact.
Hillary Clinton has crossed the line by saying things like, “John McCain is better prepared to lead than Obama”. Clinton also had a TV ad out calling Obama a terrorist. One of the basic rules in both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party is that you never give the other party amunition they can use later on against your party. Hillary Clinton has done that.
These kinds of tactics can be destructive toward the party, and should concern every Democrat reguardless of who you support. Our common goal should be to beat John McCain and the Republican Party, not tear the two best candidates to shreds.
Clinton and Obama need to stick to the issues and try to persuade us who would be better as president, without launching cheap shots against one another.
- Posted by ChiefThis could be big and good news for Obama. Rep. Clyburn is well respected and fought back all requests to endorse during the SC primary but kept his word to stay neutral. If he has gotten this information from someone who was involved in the meeting at the Clinton HQ yesterday and decided now to endorse Obama there is no doubt he will be able to bring others along. He has very close ties to the Clintons and would not criticize them so overtly if he isn’t very angry.
- Posted by lindabahlmanI think the time has come for African Americans to form their own political party. This is the perfect time to do it. The party is split along racial lines anyway. The only way to bring it closer together would be if Billary would agree to join his ticket in the general election. Fat chance of that happening. She hates him and I think the feeling is mutual. If he’s on the ticket without Billary - white democrats (except a few pimply faced college kids) will drop him like the bag of dirt he is. That’s what I think anyway.
- Posted by Roger ThatJim Clyburn is really weird. For him to talk about what he heard and talk about it in public as it is true is ridiculous. It is just like saying I heard that Obama is a Muslim. Give me a break!
Black candidate needs to wake up and stop playing the race crab.
I know Obama did not campaign in Michigan and Florida, so is Hillary. When both cannot clich the deal, does it not make sense to include Michigan and Florida? They have been punished already for moving their date forward. Now that we are near the end, their votes should be counted now and not at the convention. That is when you are going to get into nomination fights.
If Obama cannot get the core domacratic voters, he can’t win. Forget about independent. They are going to McCain. He is more of an independent guy than Obama and the republicans are going to vote for him just for the sake of keeping the White House under republican control.
Obama winning in many states comes from black voters. That is fine but black voters only make up 20% of voters. That percentage is not going to cut it in the general.
- Posted by Kim“Clinton’s insatiable lust for power destroys the Democratic party” Posted by Altman above, this kind of quote, is exactly the kind of attack the Obama campaign has been waging against Hillary Clinton. He can dodge, he can weave, but he owns the smearing of Hillary’s character.
His negatives are of his doing. But guess what? The voters want a fighter and not a whiner with all his uncles, aunties, friends and buddies making coordinated excuses for him.
The kitchen is getting hot and the sink is full. So, stop making excuses for Obama. Can he handle it?
- Posted by stellaaThe Congressman is absolutely correct. She agreed to the rules until she was losing and then wanted to change them. This is completely crazy and it is crazy for the press to give these nonsensical claims any credence. He needs to simply endorse Obama and hope that other superdelegates follow.
- Posted by HenryI love it, already Hillary had not chance of winning in November with 51% of the country hating her guts, but now she’s managed to destroy the other Democrat, who would have had a great chance of winning, especially with the Republicans running ‘DOLE II’, now Obama has been destroyed and there is no way he can win. He can’t win because white men will not vote for someone associated with a preacher that says ‘GOD D*%M, AMERICA!’, nor will white men vote for a guy who’s buddy is an unrepentant terrorist.
- Posted by tonyAnd, like it if you want to be President, you’ve got to win the ‘white guy’ vote, that’s just an electoral fact. So, once again, an ‘old white guy’ will be President of the United States. Admit it, that reassures you.
Wow! I never knew the Clintons would behave in such an uncivilized manner. Who would have ever thought they only care about their own ambition regardless of the country’s interests? I bet this guy supported the Clintons until he came to his senses. Does this mean that Bill is now not the ‘first black president’? Oh my goodness, we have all been pranked. What a joke, this has been obvious for a long time. But hey, he now likes Obama, we should all follow suit.
- Posted by JohnThe primaries were set up for a Hillary victory. She mismanaged her campaign. Obama’s team understood what was needed and have an insurmountable lead going forward.
- Posted by Triple LHillary failed. Obama succeeded. All else is a pathetic attempt to bring Obama down and position herself for a McCain victory so she can run in 2012.
We would have national health insurance had Hillary not insisted on insinuating herserlf into a position of unelected power in ‘92.
We should have let Bill be impeached. Gore would be finishing the longest democratic presidency since Roosevelt. The Clintons are the bane of the Democratic party.
No more Bushes. No more Cintons. We are not a monarchy!
Just to let you know not all mannys are the same. Clyburn is an exceptional man who undertook representation of discriminated people while on the Gov Commission. Not just blacks and Whites, but everyone irrespective of clor creed or gender. He is very qualified to identify race baiting, and thats what Hillary has done, and added class warfare to the mix, even pitted lower educated agains higher educated. She has polarized an entire nation, moreso the Lester maddox or Wallace could have done collectively in their hey days.
- Posted by Manny2I am a Hispanic, and American First, who sees this horrid ploy for what it is.
This is not the America we want, but she and the Limbaughs seem to want. I am also a Michael savage fan, but have my own mind. Mcaiin and hillary are divise, and truly represent the old way that has resulted in the selling off of American jobs. Like that Indiana Magnet factory, and tha Boeing contract nulled to go to the French.
Folx, look at what they did, not what they are saying.
Is that the “experience we want repeated in office? I will take my chance with the Newbie, Obama. the least amount of baggage, a real live hard working wife and family, and yes a common vision We all need a change!
Indianans Americans dont get faked by this Lady..
This comment is not so much about the article written above as it is for Mr. Manny who wrote the first comment, and the people who think alike. Mr. Manny, nobody is calling you a racist. The above article was written by a person, also a house democrat, who chose to assess the situation and give an honest opinion without any regard to race or creed. Yet your comment viewed the above article through a racial lens which fans the flame of a racist sentiment that you yourself denounce. “Nobody can say or do anything because they immediately say we are racist or are conspiring against black community” - These are the your words. At the same time these words were preceded and followed by a tone that keeps alive the debate of racism. So to all those that might be listening, I implore you not to view Barack Obama as a BLACK man running for the presidency, but as a man you passionately cares about bringing change and improvement to the American middle class. Do not view Hillary Clinton as the first Woman running for president but as a person who has her own ideas on how to make the lives of the average American better. And John McCain.. well I’m not quite sure as to what John McCain wants.. as his message is muddled in an attempt to woo the voters…
- Posted by SmithIf the democrats really cared about votes or the will of American voters, Obama would have already been declared the nominee. This party is a joke, these contenders are so vacant of any qualification or merit that is appropriate for the presidency. But don’t get discouraged, keep fighiting for the new guy or the liar, either way they will both make McGovern look like he gave it a good shot.
- Posted by JohnI am a white Republican, and this is not far-fetched at all; that if Obama gets the nomination, Hill and Bill want him to lose the general election, so they can say “I told you he was too liberal and inexperienced”. In Republican circles there was the same talk in 1976, that Ronald Reagan didn’t campaign very hard for Gerald Ford, so RR could get the nomination in 1980.
The Republicans want Hillary to get the nomination, because of her negatives, and the expectation that an Obama campaign would claim any criticism of his (limited)qualifications and (liberal) principles is “racist”.
Hillary Clinton has a personal ambition so extreme as to disqualify her for President.
- Posted by SamGee! Are there too much conspiracy to talk about. Why can’t we be happy loser if we have to lose and if it is a fair competition, why can’t it be going on till the end. What is the point to ask a candidate to back down if he or she is less than 10% behind the counterpart? and be smart. Whoever goes on, either he or she would not reach magic number 2025 and must finally be decided by the superdelegates. Why can’ we admire a candidate to fight on till the end even though he or she is a bit trailing behind? and what is the point to ask ‘the less than 10% short’ candidate to back down why she or he has just won another big State ? I just can’t comprehend the logic to it ? Can someone smart enough to tell ? Why can’t we admire the candidate who has excelled amid all the odds and has an advertising budget just a fraction of her counterpart has overcome all the odds to win this swing state of Pennsylvania ??????
- Posted by StevenKerry2 versus Bush3 … elitist Obama versus …
Nader in 2008
- Posted by NaderIn2008I say forget all three of the controlled media candidates and vote for Ron Paul, the only real statesman.
All the others are just politicians that will say anything to get elected.
Check out http://911essentials.com for some very interesting information and videos about the world you should know.
- Posted by VoterIf Hillary comes back to win the nomination via the superdelegates wouldnt voting for her in November be like rewarding a whining child with a trip to the amusement park? Sorry, I wont do it. If she gets more elected delegates without violating party rules thats a different story.
- Posted by RyanThis has nothing to do with “black fanaticism,” or even race. -I am white, btw. I have come to believe as a former Hillary supporter, that she is indeed trying to wound Obama enough so he looses the general election. This is the only way she’ll ever have a shot at Pres. If Obama wins it’ll be 8 years (two terms for him, or one term, then a Republican). Either way, her moment will have long passed. It’s Machiavellian and terribly disloyal to the party and country, which I believe is facing the most dire circumstances of it’s history.
- Posted by DavidThank you Dave. You said it best.
Rep. Clyburn. I think you failed to listen to Rev. Wright’s PBS interview, his association with Bill Ayers, rural PA “bitter clinging to guns” comments by Obama, Michelle Obama’s comment “for the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.”
Bill and Hillary don’t have to do a dang thing. What they told you early on which you dang black knuckleheads don’t realize is you need to VETT your democratic candidates.
Democrat party is too left wing leaning liberal to elect Presidents. That is why the Republicans have been whipping your butt for the past 30 years except for President Clinton.
He was vetted and ran until Jun-92 and was the strongest candidate against Bush, Sr. and Perot even when Perot and Bush, Sr. were leading in the Gallop poll before the final stretch.
Clyburn is speaking out b/c his golden biracial boy is about to get waxed by his OWN ASSOCIATIONS AND WORDS and lack of being vetted by the Democratic Party.
- Posted by Knowledgeforreali find it very comical anymore how the dupes in this country get blood in their teeth when it comes election time, this cycle more so than ever. you idiots honestly believe someone who has become a millionaire off of your blood, sweat and tears is actually gonna fight for you so you can have more and make their worth, less? give me a break. the democrats love the chasm between the rich and the poor just as much as the republicans, this is all about personal power. it aint about you! until we as americans realize this very fact and REVOLT! we will continue to get the goverment we deserve.
- Posted by kevinHillary campaigned in Fl., Obama campaigned in Fl. (FAMU)
- Posted by archie rosierbefore the primary. He had his name removed from the ballot in MI, good judgement? Michelle Obama did a fund
raiser in Talla. fl. a couple of weeks ago. Now let me get this straight. Am I expected to vote for a candidate
who’s wife comes to get my money but they don’t want to
count my vote???
Barak Obama ia already a winner. Hillary Clinton is just hell-bent in preventing him getting into the WH. Yes, she cannot win in November as one Clinton has been IMPEACHED. It carries more dead weight than McCain with his birth in Panama.
Indeed they,the Clintons, are “disingenious” or CORRUPT in blunt language. Mr Clyburn is perfect in his analysis– there is an association between McCain & Clinton, you rub my back I rub yours. But McCain’s VP will go for the President in 2012, if Clinton is Dem nominee now and then.Population favorite, Obama just does not exsist for them!
It is about time Hillary Clinton pack her bag and settle in Pensylvania as Mr.Bloomberg will replace her as NY Senator.
OBAMA 08.
- Posted by Tariq AhmedI voted Clinton into the senate.
I’ll NEVER Vote for her again. Never.
She’s run the sleaziest campaign in my memory.
Never again.
- Posted by PulSamsaraWell said Congressman Clyburn! Well said. I have no problems with Hillary staying in the race, but why can’t she be as respectable as Gov. Huckabee was when he ran against McCain? Such an appeal might have helped chances of a “dream ticket” before, but that could never happen now.
Hillary’s problem is all her negativity has turned her into a sour and insidious candidate with the highest unfavorable ratings in half a century. I’m a black female who will never vote for her now. Never. Obama must stay above the fray and go after McCain if he is to win the Presidency and save the Democratic party.
- Posted by MelissaBill Clinton the first Black president. Talking bad about Obomba.Who would have figured? The Clintons will say or do anything to regain power.The streets of Denver will be reminsincet of Chicago 68. Burn Baby Burn..John McCain Thanks You very much.
- Posted by jimbo,clearwater fl.Well, this has been fairly widely discussed before. And seems to be what is happening here. I wonder if her supporters who have been donating to her realize that she is still paying pollster Penn. Is trying to pay of her debts and sloughing off small business owners in previous states. Has no real path to gain a delegate advantage which is the way Democrats elects Presidents. Of course this is what she is doing and its repulsive. In the interim she is practically destroyed the party. My party for all my adult life. I pray the democrats in NC and IN will be wiser and vote Obama. I pray the Superdelegates will speed their march to Sen Obama. It is the only adult way to end this.
- Posted by merrileeAs a non-American who watched in wonder with the rest of the world while you guys re-elected George Bush, and decided that Americans are by and large retarded… I bring you this message of good will…. The rest of the world WANTS America to return to the pinnacle of Economic prosperity and the moral high ground as the most prominent advocates of Democracy, Human Rights and simple decency….and the rest of the world (by and large) believes that the only way for Americans to prove that they are willing to do a 180 from the policies of George Bush and return to sanity is to elect Barack Obama. The world awaits…..your move.
- Posted by WarrenAre you kidding me? Clinton is trying to sabotage the democratic party so she can win in 2012? You believe that?? What in the world is there to prove that Clinton has any intention of doing that as well as what is there to prove that she feels “entitled” to the presidency. A
- Posted by Craig PetersonAnd Kim, I have news for you. If Hillary loses the black votes — which appears to be the case due to her ugly campaigning — she can NOT win the general election. I’d bet on Obama’s chances over hers. At least Obama captures a larger portion of white females, males, working class voters compared to Hillary’s capturing the black vote. And if she steals the nomination from Obama, she’s toast.
- Posted by MelissaRalph Nader said it best “if the Democrats can’t win this election in a landslide, then they should fold their tent and reassess”
The Democratic Nomination process has become like “American Idol” with Obama as Sanjaya, a guy with little experience, mediocre talent and a lot of charisma garnishing all the votes. He’s a likable guy and I’ll probably vote for him because he’s the least offensive, but he’s going to be savaged bit time by the Republican attack dogs.
- Posted by NaderIn2008The Clinton machine was behind the Al Gore defeat in 2000, the Kerry defeat in 04 and now they will do what ever it takes to destroy Obama in 08. Forget about blaming the republicans about the last 8 years the blame is with the Clinton lies. The only reason Bill’s wife never divorced him after the Monica scandal was he has promised her she would be the next Democratic president, no matter what the cost is. This is why Bill and Hillary were hiding out in communist China during the hand recount in Florida of 2000.
- Posted by Robertyou are right, but we will not fall for her lies, deception, nor bill, hill/bill two of a kind..
- Posted by arianEdwards is my person…..I hope he run..sorry he dropped out..
Yes, a new kind of politics. Disenfranchise 29 million people in Michigan and Florida, not because of rules, that’s a smoke screen, but because allowing them a voice will adversely affect Obama’s chances of winning the nomination.
A new kind of politics. What utter hypocrites.
- Posted by J.D. WinterbottomShe is the GREAT DIVIDER, all for her own gain. She does not know how to lead, only to divide which, in some type of convoluted thought pattern, leads her to believe she will win. She cannot use her divisiveness to lead our country. Her perception that there is a great conspiracy against her when anyone disagrees or calls her out, is another divisive tactic. These thoughts permeate her entirety.
- Posted by RedIt’s high time somebody put a stop to the strongarm tactics used by the clintons to intimidate the democratic party. The clintons fear Senator Obama’s campaign because he has the one thing they lack. Barack generates civic nationalism wherever he goes. A united America is what terrorists fear most and a united America is what Barack will take to the presidency. This is how we can win the war on terror. Vietnam is a good example of why negativism and divisiveness, ala, hillary clinton is bad for America. The clintons found no fault with Rev. Wright when he was called to the White House for the so-called “prayer breakfast” following the Lewinsky mess. They found no fault with the terrorists when they were granted pardons in exchange for donations to hillary’s senate campaign. She dares to claim she “didn’t know?” God help us! These two issues pale by comparision to the baggage which hillary admits she carries. Barack campaigns with one hand behind his back because to question that “baggage” would cause them to paint him as negative. The Republicans won’t be so kind to her. I say we drag out a couple of clinton “associates” starting with Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Juanita Broderick, Gennifer Flowers, Linda Tripp and let them repeat, over and over their relationships with the clintons. In addition, the clinton administration ignored 4 terrorist attacks during their 8 years. They failed to ignore the growing threat of terrorism. Why did hillary sit idly by and do nothing? Why didn’t bill clinton credit her with anything in his autobiography? And what about those questionable donors to the clinton library and their foundation? Go ahead Barack..ask hillary. Finally, at the funeral of former president, Gerald Ford, he left orders that Bill Clinton NOT be allowed to speak, because, in Ford’s words, “there are standards.” The clintons have violated every standard of morality, decency and honesty we look for in our leaders. We cannot send this immoral pair back to the White House. How dare they ask the superdelegates and the democratic party to hand them another presidency after they saved him from being thrown out of office following his impeachment! It’s not shame on them…it’s shame on us for keeping them in power. America deserves better. Snap out of it America!
- Posted by victoria jonesGosh…I didn’t know Hillary was an ice skater…and competing with Barrack…has anybody seen Bill walking around with a piece of pipe in his hand? This is the greatest show on the earth…will someone pass the popcorn, please?
- Posted by TxnByBrthAfter everything the Clintons have done for the blacks, this is the thanks they get. The Clintons have been good shepherds of poor black folk who didn’t know how to help themselves, and all the Clintons have ever demanded in return for giving those people more welfare is their vote and unquestioning support! Is that too much to ask for the patronage the Clintons have provided to the black people who just weren’t able to take care of themselves like little children? How hard is it to be happy with the welfare you’ve been given and just vote the Clintons back in? Ingratitude has a face and it’s black!
- Posted by LennyAll this discussion is only indicative of the major schism that has existed in the Democratic party since the early days of the Clinton administation. Even Juan Williams admitted that he was unaware of how deep the split is.
My perception is that Ms. Clinton’s reluctance to quit is because she sees this as her only chance for the White House.
- Posted by David SClyburn is simply wrong. The Clinton’s are too myopic to be thinking about 2012 and they obviously don’t care what damage they do to the Democratic Party.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT PLANET ALL OF YOU CLINTON LOVERS HAVE BEEN LIVING ON. THE DEMOCRATS HAD 40 YEARS CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND SENATE AND LOOK AT THE POVERTY THAT STILL EXISTS TODAY FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS. AND BILL CLINTON HAS THE NERVE TO CALL HIMSELF THE “FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT”. BOTH OF THE CLINTONS HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING ANYTHING FOR BLACK PEOPLE. THEY JUST WANT THE VOTE AND ARE WILLING TO SAY ANYTHING TO GET IT. OBAMA STANDS FOR REAL CHANGE IN WASHINGTON AND HE DESERVES THE CHANCE.AND HILLARY DOES NOT DESERVE THE FL.AND MI.VOTES.IF ANYTHING THEY SHOULD BE DIVIDED RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE SINCE OBAMA DID NOT CAMPAIGN IN EITHER STATE BECAUSE HE WAS TOLD THAT THOSE VOTES WOULD NOT COUNT. COME ON PEOPLE,DON’T YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF RIGHT OR WRONG?
- Posted by D. GAZWAYto all the ignorant, uneducated, skin color-centric idiots and mutants, it’s the philosophy, stupid. the color of ones skin is of no relevance and importance.
- Posted by tom richardsPass the arugula, please.
President John McCain. Get used to it.
- Posted by TedI do not care what color of skin this man has. He could be pink or purple as far as I care. I do not even care if is is a Christian. What I do care about is that he has solidified my theory about Obama. He uses his surrogates and supporters to deliver dirty blows that amount to character assassination toward Hillary Clinton.
Game over. You are a fraud Obama. Your game has been discovered and you will not win the GE. Go ahead and get the nomination, your tactics in this campaign have not be ignored and you can not run a credible campaign on hope and change. You sullied that months ago. The GOP has the proof… You will not get away with this in the GE, you will be exposed.
Goodbye to having a Democrat in the White House in 2009.
- Posted by LeisaHere’s the deal with the democrats: if Obama loses, then we are all racists; if Clinton loses, then we are all sexists; if McCain wins then we are all warmongers. They gotcha however this endless campaign turns out.
- Posted by Frank M.Imagine………a President Barack traveling to Africa to address the issues of AIDS, FAMINE, DISEASE……
- Posted by vickyWho is Rep. Clyburn trying to kid? He has chided Pres. Clinton more than once in this primary season. He misinterpreted Bill Clinton’s “fairytale” remark and tried to insinuate Clinton was being racist. Even though Rep. Clyburn says he is uncommitted, he is only fooling himself. He’s been for Barack Obama and just refuses to say so. He is a just an attack dog for the Obama campaign.
- Posted by maggierAfter seeing Hillary lie over and over there is no way I would vote for her. We’ve been lied to long enough by politicians, including her husband. I’m glad to see someone speak up for the African-American voters. I can’t even imagine how angry they are because I am sick about what the Clintons are doing. They bring shame to our party. Her negatives should be getting up to 75% soon the way she is going. That’s higher than Bush even.
- Posted by Deb G.I live in NY state and am profounly embarrassed that HRC is our senator. I apologize to the rest of the world.
- Posted by bangalorYep…we know what the Clinton’s are all about, and that’s the reason she is not a popular candidate. On the other hand, everybody is getting their jollies up chanting they want a change and Barrack is the guy to change things…has anyone really sat down and done an analysis on what the results would be if the changes, based on Barrack’s “real” track record, he has in mind were implemented?
Socialist/Communist Center Conservative
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Barrack Hillary McCain Most Americans
This is how it appears when you survey each of the four above. I’m not that happy with any of the choices…Hey! Who has my popcorn??
- Posted by TxnByBrthAnd, the entertainment continues.
- Posted by Lucy PHOW CAN YOU VOTE FOR A PERSON THAT LIES TO YOUR FACE ,SO EASILY,DAY BY DAY MONTH-BY-MONTH YEAR TO YEAR FOR SOOOOOO LONG,BE TRUSTED.JUST LIKE HER HUSBAND.ARE PEOPLE JUST ADAPTED TO LIES AND EXCEPT IT.SHE HAS ANOTHER MAJOR FRAUD CASE COMING UP.WHEN DOES THE CLINTON CRIME FAMILY STOP.THERE WORSE THEN ORGANIZED MOB PERSONAL.WHAT CRIME HAVENT THEY COMMITTED? RAPE FRAUD,SELLING TOP SECRETS TO CHINA,RELEASING MAJOR DRUG DEALERS,MURDERS,FRAUD SCAMS,ALL OF THEM.LOTS OF MONEY THERE.SHE IS BRINGING TOTAL GOVERMENT CONTROL OF OUR MONEY,ALONG WITH THE WHITE HATER.IF ELECTED WE THE PEOPLE ARE DONE! THAT EASY! THINK.
- Posted by Michael Colemanlet’s see now..first we elect a black president..then a woman..then a hispanic..then a native american.then an asian..then a homosexual.then a transvestite..then a jew..then a moslem…then a ????..and finally we are clean of all guilt and prejudice..right???? ..oh..being qualified to hold the office..NO LONGER MATTERS!
- Posted by dumdemsWould someone answer the following question?
- Posted by JohnI don’t know the answer, but heard someone else speak of it.
When Obama was in indonesian, did he attend one of those muslin schools for four years?
Another black dummy! James Clyburn,did you watch Obama’s campaign tactics? All the negative attacks were initiated by Obama who said to Newsweek in an interview last year that Hillary was not trustworthy. Ever since Obama’s run his campaign, there have been numerous negative and severe attacks from Obama and his campaign directed to Hillary in order to knock her out the race. There are too many examples of Obama’s scurrilous and despicable attacks at Hillary through cascade of mails, speeches, interviews and news conferences, how dare you just blame all to Hillary?
James Clyburn, I tell you what, if you keep attacking Hillary, and the more you do so, the more I’m against Obama. I, and many many people will not vote for the democratic party if Obama’s nominee. He’s totally unelectable and despicable. You just heard some stupid and unfounded rumors then you accused Hillary. This tells you are either a brainless dummy, or you’re a dirty dog who uses baseless excuses to attack Hillary. How deplorable!
- Posted by smartcookie2008Two FLAWED candidates FLAILING in the wind…. sad state the Democrats have found themselves in. If they can not run a respectable race how can they govern the rest of us?
- Posted by JayI guess what Clyburn said coupled with the fact that Hillary drives Democratic and Independent numbers DOWN in head-to-head match ups with McCain is why the Super Delegates are backing Obama. I think the members of Congress would prefer to work with Obama, don’t you?
- Posted by KarenHillary and Bill Clinton are both pathological liars who don’t give a damn about the Democratic party. They are obsessed with power and prestige and will stop at nothing to get what they want. And what they want is The White House.
I am a life-long Democrat who is repulsed by her Machiavellian campaign and her twisted idea of the truth. She is a disgrace and an embarrassment to civil minded people everywhere.
Obama has his own set of problems which I pray will be addressed and rectified before the general election. Because despite what the Clinton supporters think, she is NOT getting the nomination. Her Rovian dirty tricks, hypocritical speeches and despicable campaigning tactics will backfire on her in the end. The superdelegates are NOT impressed and quite frankly, they are as disgusted with her as I am.
Good riddance, Hillary. The end is near…and this is one loyal American who will be thrilled to see you go. And no, I am not black…I am white…so all you Hillary people can stop with the “Oh, he’s just a bitter black guy venting” mantra right about now.
- Posted by billOperation Chaos at its finest! ’sept I don’t think Limpbauh had anything to do with it. … A woman and a Black Guy running at the same time… didn’t the dumicrates see the 2 freight trains in a collision course just at the thought? On the other hand I can’t BELIEVE how Mccain just got shoved off on us. I know for a fact that 90% of all voters want lower “fair” taxes. No… this guy was forced on us from the “POWERS THAT BE”. He’ll get elected and he’ll be another spend spend spend republicrat. I’m thinkin the whole thing is a rigged show. Hillary will write 3 more books and make another 100,000,000 win or lose. Though I think she has her eye on Empress of the world. As long as I’m ranting, you people who think global warming is real…please do a little research. It’s all about creating a global tax for the global elite politicians.
- Posted by joey be jonesWow. The first comment right out of the chute makes the claim that he’s “another black fanatic.” Come on, people! Seriously! All the Congressman was saying was that it’s good to be respectful. Just what about that makes him another black fanatic? This is getting absolutely ridiculous.
- Posted by PaulMy wife has been telling me the same thing - Hillary wants Obama to lose so she can run in 2012 against McCain. If Obama wins two terms it will be 2016 before Hillary can run again, she’ll be 68, and Obama’s vice-president will be set up to get the nomination.
Hillary knows she’s lost this year and four years from now will be her last chance - if Obama loses to McCain. So she’s helping McCain to win.
Shame on her - and Bill.
- Posted by Malama Makena‘President McCain, get used to it’: will the guy even be ALIVE by the election? Or will it be Weekend at Johnny’s, for the first term, until his arm falls off?
As for all the people crying ‘Clinton or McCain, but NEVER Obama’, really, look at yourselves. Those of you who are Democrats anyway. Take a long hard look at yourselves, and look at the way you’re acting, look at the way you might have acted before the election.
Is your PERSONAL investment in Hillary worth more than an election win for the Democratic party?
The facts are these: a minority of Obama supporters will not vote for Hillary come November. But a great number of Hillary supporters refuse to vote for Obama and would rather vote McCain.
Now if you continue to savage Obama supporters, you will end up alienating them.
Think about. Hillary hasn’t been ‘vetted’. Why do you think Rush Limbaugh and his ilk want Hillary to win the nomination? Because they think she’ll be harder to beat? Ridiculous. They know she’ll be EASY.
Republicans don’t like John McCain as much as they would like a more conservative candidate.
Come November, if Hillary is the Democratic nominee, they will not vote for John McCain but AGAINST Hillary Clinton.
If Obama is the nominee, he has a chance of winning. You can throw all the names around you want: Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, Carlos the Jackal, John Gotti’s ghost, that guy who played Ronald McDonald in the ’50s - NONE of it is substantiated. Lies, damned lies, and fiction my friends.
READ about the Rezko affair, don’t just go around spouting crap. READ about his ‘connections’ with Bill Ayers.
Isn’t it funny that as soon as someone rattles off a name and sticks it to Obama, the Hillary supporters begin to spread that information as though it were absolutely true? Just like he ‘gave the finger’ on television. Bullshit.
Find out the facts. You guys are worse than the Republican ‘machine’ that you are so scared of going up against.
The fact is that the people are wiser than the leaders. They haven’t bought the Rezko crap. They won’t buy the Ayers crap. If it isn’t true and can’t be substantiated, then forget it. Attack Obama on issues. Attack him on his politics. But don’t use smear tactics to get your way, because they won’t work. They haven’t worked. All they do is divide, and reflect poorly on Hillary supporters. Very poorly.
And in turn, they reflect on Hillary herself, because she appears to condone this activity, engage in it or tacitly approve of it.
Really, think about it: the Chicago Sun-Times haranged Obama about Rezko for a long time. They investigated him, then they asked him to answer questions.
He came forward. He answered the questions. They ENDORSED him. They said they’d never encountered a more forward or open politician. That says something about him.
So for those crying ‘NEVER Obama’, you might as well cry ‘NEVER Hillary’. You’re not Democrats.
Let’s call you ‘Hillbillies’. Go off and start your own party, if you feel you have such a personal investment in Hillary (a person who wouldn’t piss down your throat if your lungs were on fire).
This is about character, not characters - if it were about the latter, I could waste my time listing hundreds of unsavoury characters the Clintons have associated with. Or I could just make some up, like you guys do.
Vote for Hillary if she’s the nominee. I will. Obama supporters will, generally.
However, since he’s the FRONTRUNNER, it will be your choice to support him. You’ll need to look at yourselves.
You’ll need to ask yourselves, ‘Am I angry? Am I ‘bitter’? Am I going to CLING to Hillary Clinton? Am I going to act like a baby, like a child, who, in the face of loss, storms off in a heap, or worse, goes against their opponent?’
That’s what it looks like. You sound like whining children. You’re expecting a loss. But don’t forget these are the PRIMARIES. This isn’t the election.
If you vote Republican because of your personal investment in Hillary, then you might as well have voted Bush in 2000, and you certainly should be complaining that there’s an election.
I mean really: if you are a Hillary supporter who WON’T, absolutely WON’T vote Obama when he gets the nomination, why bother following the election at all? Because if McCain, more of the same, gets the nomination, then you approve continuing the Neo-con strategy that has gripped this country for so long.
This is what it looks like in summary:
‘If MY candidate, Hillary, doesn’t win, then I’ll be SO annoyed that I’ll vote McCain, just to get you! Na na na na!’
But wait. If you vote McCain, ANY criticism of Bush et al. is mute. Any criticism you’ve ever made of Bush, et al., is mute.
But that’s it, isn’t it? You people don’t care about the war, or the economy, or aggressive foreign policy or lying and cheating and stealing at the highest levels of government. Of attempts to upset the balance of power in favor of the Executive branch. Attempts to override the judiciary.
You don’t care! You never have! You don’t vote issues. You vote Hillary.
And if you can’t have Hillary, then screw everyone else, it’ll be four more years, at least, of wars and lies and America run into the ground.
Don’t you think there’s something fundamentally wrong with that kind of thinking?
Really. Look at yourselves. Think about it. Don’t just brush this off. Think about why you’re voting Hillary - or NOT voting Obama come November - and then respond. Otherwise it won’t be worth anyone’s time.</