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	<title>Comments on: Candid cameras. Does CCTV actually work?</title>
	<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cctv</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-5302</link>
		<dc:creator>cctv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very useful topic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very useful topic</p>
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		<title>By: James Davies</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2593</link>
		<dc:creator>James Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2593</guid>
		<description>The comments made by Detective Chief Inspector Mike Neville will be echoed by officers through out the country. Due to a lack of standards within the CCTV industry, Police officers are faced with huge difficulties in trying to retrieve footage from CCTV systems. Police officers and the criminal justice system need to be provided with the information they desperately need to help easily and efficiently retrieve evidence. The Evidence Ready CCTV Standards Scheme will help arm officers with this vital information and help make CCTV the deterrent it should be.

James Davies

Forensic Video Analysis Group
http://www.evidenceready.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments made by Detective Chief Inspector Mike Neville will be echoed by officers through out the country. Due to a lack of standards within the CCTV industry, Police officers are faced with huge difficulties in trying to retrieve footage from CCTV systems. Police officers and the criminal justice system need to be provided with the information they desperately need to help easily and efficiently retrieve evidence. The Evidence Ready CCTV Standards Scheme will help arm officers with this vital information and help make CCTV the deterrent it should be.</p>
<p>James Davies</p>
<p>Forensic Video Analysis Group<br />
<a href="http://www.evidenceready.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.evidenceready.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Farnworth, NEC UK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2556</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Farnworth, NEC UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2556</guid>
		<description>Neville has correctly identified that the UK’s CCTV network is currently not fit for purpose.  However, the announced plans do not go far enough to rectify the situation, and there are several other key strategies that should be deployed to dramatically reduce crime with CCTV technology.

The new measures announced merely enhance reactive observation of crime, rather than enabling proactive prevention. As highlighted by Neville, one of the biggest challenges with CCTV being effective is ensuring that the watchers are being watched, and currently the surveillance teams clearly don’t have enough time or the inclination to monitor the footage and respond to the action. Therefore, Viido must look to deploy ‘smart’ CCTV systems that can analyse the behaviour of criminals as it happens to allow the proactive prevention of crime.  These ‘smart’ systems transmit  the video image that is then automatically monitored for a range of simple to complex behaviours, such as unattended objects, undue dwell times, loitering and intrusion.  

Smart CCTV systems have been used in airports throughout the world, and provide an excellent example of a complex environment that has a high security threat and high area footfall.   With the UK gearing up the 2012 London Olympics, it is vital that the security services don’t rely on outdated systems to prevent and detect malicious activity.  The promised initiatives will go some way in improving the situation, but there is still a long way to realise the full potential of CCTV in the prevention of crime on our streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neville has correctly identified that the UK’s CCTV network is currently not fit for purpose.  However, the announced plans do not go far enough to rectify the situation, and there are several other key strategies that should be deployed to dramatically reduce crime with CCTV technology.</p>
<p>The new measures announced merely enhance reactive observation of crime, rather than enabling proactive prevention. As highlighted by Neville, one of the biggest challenges with CCTV being effective is ensuring that the watchers are being watched, and currently the surveillance teams clearly don’t have enough time or the inclination to monitor the footage and respond to the action. Therefore, Viido must look to deploy ‘smart’ CCTV systems that can analyse the behaviour of criminals as it happens to allow the proactive prevention of crime.  These ‘smart’ systems transmit  the video image that is then automatically monitored for a range of simple to complex behaviours, such as unattended objects, undue dwell times, loitering and intrusion.  </p>
<p>Smart CCTV systems have been used in airports throughout the world, and provide an excellent example of a complex environment that has a high security threat and high area footfall.   With the UK gearing up the 2012 London Olympics, it is vital that the security services don’t rely on outdated systems to prevent and detect malicious activity.  The promised initiatives will go some way in improving the situation, but there is still a long way to realise the full potential of CCTV in the prevention of crime on our streets.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith M Warwick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2546</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith M Warwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 04:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2546</guid>
		<description>Because the awful truth is out - that public CCTV is an ineffective waste of money - they will cease to be any useful deterrent. Whatsoever.

Unfortunately, vast amounts of cash were poured down the civic drain via the purchasing of sub-standard equipment.

Some cameras give such poor quality pictures that identification of suspects is rendered impossible.

Big brother not only needs better quality spectacles - he needs to get hos act together.

However, I am sure many of us will be releived not to be quite as obtrusively observed as we thought we were!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the awful truth is out - that public CCTV is an ineffective waste of money - they will cease to be any useful deterrent. Whatsoever.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, vast amounts of cash were poured down the civic drain via the purchasing of sub-standard equipment.</p>
<p>Some cameras give such poor quality pictures that identification of suspects is rendered impossible.</p>
<p>Big brother not only needs better quality spectacles - he needs to get hos act together.</p>
<p>However, I am sure many of us will be releived not to be quite as obtrusively observed as we thought we were!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Patterson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2537</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2537</guid>
		<description>Well, no big news here. That's an issue that has been well raised in the insightful documentary "EVERY STEP YOU TAKE" last year already.

There is clearly something wrong in this country.
Only watching the film's trailer at http://www.EveryStepYouTake.org sends you shivers down your bones ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no big news here. That&#8217;s an issue that has been well raised in the insightful documentary &#8220;EVERY STEP YOU TAKE&#8221; last year already.</p>
<p>There is clearly something wrong in this country.<br />
Only watching the film&#8217;s trailer at <a href="http://www.EveryStepYouTake.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.EveryStepYouTake.org</a> sends you shivers down your bones &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: G Macdonald</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2536</link>
		<dc:creator>G Macdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2536</guid>
		<description>As an ex city policeman I think the cameras are a big help I wish we had them in the sixties. &#124;Some cameras possibly are sited in the wrong place but the police should make the councils resite them and should not put any camera up without discussing it with the police. These council employees love to play policemen it gives them an air of importance some are very good people mostly are just a hindrance. The courts need to be told these cameras are good evidence and use them. Procurator Fiscals have and still are pretty lazy and love to mark no pro on good evidence there no busy they say they mean too tired</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an ex city policeman I think the cameras are a big help I wish we had them in the sixties. |Some cameras possibly are sited in the wrong place but the police should make the councils resite them and should not put any camera up without discussing it with the police. These council employees love to play policemen it gives them an air of importance some are very good people mostly are just a hindrance. The courts need to be told these cameras are good evidence and use them. Procurator Fiscals have and still are pretty lazy and love to mark no pro on good evidence there no busy they say they mean too tired</p>
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		<title>By: Limey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2534</link>
		<dc:creator>Limey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2534</guid>
		<description>I am an ex-pat living in Colorado. Since I left England twenty five years ago I have been totally amazed that British people allowed this extraordinary development concerning CCTV to ever take place.....Just the thought of it gives me the "willies". Going about one's daily business knowing that there are almost always eyes in the skies checking people out for any inconsistent behavior, as if people were kids in a playground watched over by playground monitors, is far more than I could ever cope with.What on earth happened to the British spirit ?It sounds as if you all have turned into a bunch of self demeaning and inconsequential robots....In fact I have more respect for robots....I'm not sure what to think of the British any more.....The moment my town even considers placing one of these abhorrent devices I am out of here as I have sufficient self respect not to tolerate such a blatant abuse of one's privacy for such obviously ludicrous and ineffectual reasons and I don't want to be around people who think they are ever justified.Those people have lost their marbles big time....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an ex-pat living in Colorado. Since I left England twenty five years ago I have been totally amazed that British people allowed this extraordinary development concerning CCTV to ever take place&#8230;..Just the thought of it gives me the &#8220;willies&#8221;. Going about one&#8217;s daily business knowing that there are almost always eyes in the skies checking people out for any inconsistent behavior, as if people were kids in a playground watched over by playground monitors, is far more than I could ever cope with.What on earth happened to the British spirit ?It sounds as if you all have turned into a bunch of self demeaning and inconsequential robots&#8230;.In fact I have more respect for robots&#8230;.I&#8217;m not sure what to think of the British any more&#8230;..The moment my town even considers placing one of these abhorrent devices I am out of here as I have sufficient self respect not to tolerate such a blatant abuse of one&#8217;s privacy for such obviously ludicrous and ineffectual reasons and I don&#8217;t want to be around people who think they are ever justified.Those people have lost their marbles big time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2532</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2532</guid>
		<description>I agree 100% with Doktor Jon, the problem with most CCTV systems is that they have been purchased to enable a 'tick' in the box to be placed alongside ‘Do YOU HAVE CCTV’, and not designed for purpose. When the system images are then required to be used for what they were intended, identification of people or vehicles, they typically fall short because they have been installed 'on a budget' rather than having adequate resolution, frame rates and memory to suit the job they are intended for. Testing of CCTV systems to ensure that they meet the design criteria that you intended should be a given, however most CCTV systems are tested ‘subjectively’ and are often not designed to any particular standard. New standards are emerging in the US that can be used in the Uk and Europe and are available at www.transitcommtech.com/cctv.htm.

CCTV system owners should look seriously at getting rid of older VHS based recorders and installing DVR's or network based recorders if they are using network systems. This in it's self will improve the ability to record better (resolution) images. Systems also need to be tested and maintained and there are industry accepted systems and methods to do this such as ROTAKIN, which the Home Office have developed specifically for testing the effectiveness of the whole system, camera, network and recorder.

Video analytics systems are improving with the introduction of second generation systems that will make the work of studying CCTV systems much better, however, in the meantime many users of video analytics systems have to ensure they have them optimised for specific tasks, such as ‘area intrusion etc’ and leave the biometrics tasks to dedicated systems and operators.

The DCI is correct is saying that many systems are near useless when it comes to reviewing the images in playback. This is because many systems are still of the older VHS/SVHS variety and need to be updated along with improving older cameras. New digital (4cif or 2cif) cameras are not that expensive these days and will make a significant difference to the usefulness of the system as will a planned maintenance routine. It all depends if you want to use the CCTV for evidential purposes or to simply have it as a deterrent. Either way you need to make sure that the cameras that you have work and are appropriate for use. I’d strongly suggest that CCTV users join a users group and also appraise themselves of what to do to ensure that any images they do record can be of use to the legal system. The home office has a new guide to handling 'Digital Multimedia Evidence' (DME) that all CCTV users and operators should be aware. There are also guidelines for placement of CCTV cameras that system owners should be aware of.

At the end of the day, understand what you want your CCTV system to do and design it accordingly. Test it with the industry accepted test methods to avoid ‘subjective’ comments that the system is ‘OK Guv’ and above all check and maintain the system regularly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% with Doktor Jon, the problem with most CCTV systems is that they have been purchased to enable a &#8216;tick&#8217; in the box to be placed alongside ‘Do YOU HAVE CCTV’, and not designed for purpose. When the system images are then required to be used for what they were intended, identification of people or vehicles, they typically fall short because they have been installed &#8216;on a budget&#8217; rather than having adequate resolution, frame rates and memory to suit the job they are intended for. Testing of CCTV systems to ensure that they meet the design criteria that you intended should be a given, however most CCTV systems are tested ‘subjectively’ and are often not designed to any particular standard. New standards are emerging in the US that can be used in the Uk and Europe and are available at <a href="http://www.transitcommtech.com/cctv.htm." rel="nofollow">http://www.transitcommtech.com/cctv.htm.</a> </p>
<p>CCTV system owners should look seriously at getting rid of older VHS based recorders and installing DVR&#8217;s or network based recorders if they are using network systems. This in it&#8217;s self will improve the ability to record better (resolution) images. Systems also need to be tested and maintained and there are industry accepted systems and methods to do this such as ROTAKIN, which the Home Office have developed specifically for testing the effectiveness of the whole system, camera, network and recorder.</p>
<p>Video analytics systems are improving with the introduction of second generation systems that will make the work of studying CCTV systems much better, however, in the meantime many users of video analytics systems have to ensure they have them optimised for specific tasks, such as ‘area intrusion etc’ and leave the biometrics tasks to dedicated systems and operators.</p>
<p>The DCI is correct is saying that many systems are near useless when it comes to reviewing the images in playback. This is because many systems are still of the older VHS/SVHS variety and need to be updated along with improving older cameras. New digital (4cif or 2cif) cameras are not that expensive these days and will make a significant difference to the usefulness of the system as will a planned maintenance routine. It all depends if you want to use the CCTV for evidential purposes or to simply have it as a deterrent. Either way you need to make sure that the cameras that you have work and are appropriate for use. I’d strongly suggest that CCTV users join a users group and also appraise themselves of what to do to ensure that any images they do record can be of use to the legal system. The home office has a new guide to handling &#8216;Digital Multimedia Evidence&#8217; (DME) that all CCTV users and operators should be aware. There are also guidelines for placement of CCTV cameras that system owners should be aware of.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, understand what you want your CCTV system to do and design it accordingly. Test it with the industry accepted test methods to avoid ‘subjective’ comments that the system is ‘OK Guv’ and above all check and maintain the system regularly.</p>
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		<title>By: Romain</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2531</link>
		<dc:creator>Romain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2531</guid>
		<description>Sarkozy wants to imitate the system in France, where the level of taxes is considerably higher...

The big brother society is double costly, £wise and freedomwise and this article proves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarkozy wants to imitate the system in France, where the level of taxes is considerably higher&#8230;</p>
<p>The big brother society is double costly, £wise and freedomwise and this article proves it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Morgan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2528</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2008/05/06/candid-cameras-does-cctv-actually-work/#comment-2528</guid>
		<description>For CCTV to work we need to use higher definition cameras to put an end to the grainy footage which helps to convict in very few cases. 

A more visible police presence would be a more effective deterrent to would be criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For CCTV to work we need to use higher definition cameras to put an end to the grainy footage which helps to convict in very few cases. </p>
<p>A more visible police presence would be a more effective deterrent to would be criminals.</p>
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