I’d like to see them suffer further humiliation for a couple of years, before suffering the biggest electoral defeat in history. Then hopefully they can stay in the wilderness for, say, 30 years, by which time I won’t give a toss any more.

I think Gordon should ask Mugabe for help on how to win the next election.

Perhaps now the British Establishment will appreciate that there is a political, cultural , social and historical change at work in Scotland. Scotand has very little in common with England these days and with distinctive legal, educational, religious and economic profiles and a legitimate Parliamentary sovereignty regained the UK as a political entity is dead.

Forget the usual cliches about “secession” as if Scotland would be an illegal entity on a par with Kosovo , the precedent is there in the dissolution of Czechoslovakia in 2 peaceful, prosperous States at the heart of the European Union or the dissolution of the Union between Norway and Sweden. Forget the threats to block Scottish membership of the EU, membership of EEA like Norway or Switzerland could be sufficient for Scotland anyway.

Think of the contribution the Republic of Ireland has made on the International Diplomatic stage with its initiatives in the UN that lead to the NPT or its and respected contribution to UN peace-keeping.

No doubt as the the usual dirty tricks will re-emerge with planted half-truth stories in the media on Oil & Gas sovereign rights and median lines in the North Sea or State Pensions disappearing etc etc.

Bottom line is Scotland is needed as a base for Trident and as a recruiting ground for lost causes like Iraq.

The message is the game is up ! Alba is back

Brown should definately go. If a CEO performed this badly they would be out the door. Brown is sullen & inefective; he has no direction & should listen to the electorate who have literally voted with their feet and are deserting the party in droves.

all the whingers on here are obviously either Tory or SNP, if you are a Scot you are fully entitled to show support for independance, that is to be expected. But whatever you do, DO NOT VOTE TORY. bring back Thatcher one wrote… in Scotland? I don’t think so, remember what she and all her backstabbing cabinet did to Scotland, we don’t want them here in England and Wales either. For God’s sake, whatever you do, please, oh please, do not vote Tory, not only will it definately be the end of the Union but the end of life as we know it.

I think that Gordon Brown should call an election in say 4 months time. That would give all the political parties time to have their conferences and settle their election manifestos. It would also give Labour time to choose whether to keep Gordon or switch to another leader. Perhaps the Queen should take the initiative as she once did in Australia?

People seem to forget that the last Tory govenment was 11 years ago.

Labour and their supporters are still unbelievably trying to blame a lot of their ills on the last Tory administration. Labour have messed up big time and it is time to stop blaming others and to finally admit their mistakes.

Gordon Brown says he is getting on with the job, which is what people want him to do, this is not true people want him to resign and call an election. Some Hope

Wellsaid, Tony P. Though I am not a Labour peson, if only the Tory Party had suffered an an even more calamitous defeat in 1997 then their present revival wouldn’t have got off the ground. They are a useless party that effectively stands for nothing. They won’t stop immigration, they won’t do anything substantial about law and order and they won’t even take us out of the EU without which we can’t even begin to put this country to rights again.

People really need to wake-up. If idiots in this part of the United Kingdom vote Tory and Dave Boy enters No.10 then Scotland will leave the UK and I for one will be very sad if they do.

If the Labour Party had any sense then they would institute electoral reform before the next election. This is imperitive if the Union is to be saved.

‘GB’ definetely does not stand for ‘Great Britain’
My father passed away a few years ago, the only consulation I have is that he did not see what a ‘bloody balls up’ Labour and Brown have made of his old England!!
The best bit is when the Labour party talk about ‘winning back votes’ No Chance!!!!!!!!!

This is the last ever Labour government. After the next election Salmond will take Scotland to independence and England will be free of the malign influence of Scottish Socialist MPs.

I for one eould be very glad to see an end to the endless tax and spend policies, state databases, ID cards, unrestricted immigration, endless ‘green’ taxes purely for raising revenue, denied referendum, etc ad nauseum.

Time to call an election Mr Brown

Accountants should stay accountants! Just because you (think) you were a good chancellor, it doesnt make you a good prime minister! Stick to your knitting Mr Brown, immerse yourself in some numbers, shut the door, and give us all some peace. I feel embarrassed when i see you representing this country, standing alongside world leaders, you look pale, emotionless, characterless, NOT what we need. We need a Leader, not a good manager. Your just a manager, so go manage!

Anyone but a Labourite it is as simple as ABC. Each time they have been in Gov. it’s their spend spend spend until you drop attitude that has been their and our undoing. Those with Labourite attitudes are not fit people for Gov.

Brown will go with the rest of them in 2010 unless he calls an earlier general election, in which case he will go then. Labour have got nobody to replace him.

When the political history of the 21st century in Britain is written, three main themes will be recorded for this first decade:

it was the last gasp of Socialism in England;
it was the last attempt of the Scottish political class to control England;
it was the end of the United Kingdom of Great Britain as a properly functioning homogeneous nation.

These things are inextricably linked. Look out for the political equivalent of a scorched earth policy over the next 2 years as Labour seeks to consolidate the damage it has done before being consigned to history.

Brian you know that is a ridiculous charge!

I did not like Blair but at least he lied with Panache and one almost believed him. Brown lies as he did as Chancellor but without charm and so is never believed.

I think the main reason Labour have remained in power for so long was due to the charisma of Mr Blair. Mr Brown has no charisma and the public never wanted to see him in the top seat. This along with his own selfish determination to succeed Mr Blair has led to Labour’s dramatic demise. Lastly, his “apparent” success as chancellor is finally bearing fruit with the country soon to be in recession ! When the times were good he just kept on spending in all the wrong areas. Now the bad times are about to smack us in the face we have no reserve.