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09:09 November 6th, 2008

Should rates go even further down?

Posted by: Stephen Addison
Tags: Consumer Finance, UK News, , ,

Praise for the Bank of England’s huge cut in interest rates to 3 from 4.5 percent has been widespread.

Economists say it was a bold and aggressive move and the government will now be looking for banks to pass on the reductions in full.

But was it enough? Some forecasters are looking for even more and suggest two or even zero percent could be on the way next year.

What is your opinion of the Bank’s decision?

15 comments so far

With UK debt so high after the bailout of the failing banks; this interest rate move will drop the pound sterling to parity with the dollar and Euro (perhaps a politically opportunist move of subterfuge to prepare the UK for Euro membership?).

This devaluation of the pound will cause a massive upward pressure on UK inflation, as nothing is made in the UK without importing its raw materials; which have to be purchased with the increasingly devalued pound.

Will this not lead to stagflation in the event that the rate cut does not stimulate the UK economy out of recession?

One science question for you geeks out there: when does a recession technically or officially become a depression?

- Posted by Zen

Dropping further would be crazy. This is already storing up huge problems further down the line. I guarantee that in 2 to 3 years time they’ll have to jack them right up in order to counteract the inevitable inflationary spiral. Meanwhile savers are being unfairly punished in order to support those that borrowed beyond their means.
They should have left rates at 4.5%. That is already lax by historic standards. Debt needs to be repaid, not added to.

- Posted by Ben

I’m happy rates have gone down. I’m on an existing tracker mortgage and have heard the rates will be passed on!

- Posted by John, Leeds

There will be no further big rate cuts until the next by-election is due in Scotland.

I hope that the voters struggling with their mortgage and credit card repayments in Glenrothes will show their gratitude to Bottler when they vote today.

An independent BoE? Ho Ho Ho, it’s Christmas Time!!!

This reduction in rates is simply buying votes which will have to be paid for with future tax increases. A disgraceful abuse of government.

- Posted by Andy

The lowering of the bank rate is useless if the Banks who are the real culprits still refuse to benefit their customers and lower mortgage interest rates. Utter nonsence when we the taxpayer are paying for their mistakes! Something very wrong with this legislation!!

- Posted by Redecen

Great news, running a small business this action will help enourmously. Thankyou, thankyou.

- Posted by alex

The BoE is into rabbits caught in the headlights territory now, just like the government. Sheer blind panic.

History teaches us that bucking recessionary trends is virtually impossible. You just have to ride them out. This drastic cut won’t get us out of the recession and will eventually result in other serious problems.

An end to boom and bust? What a joke.

- Posted by Matthew

Real rates now are already negative (3% nominal, but inflation is over 5%). The Bank of England is taking a huge risk with inflation. In principle they should not do so- rates should have stayed much higher and those who had been irresponsible would have to take the pain. Doing this is basically ceating the start of the next crisis.

There is of course one other possibility- that the BofE know something we do not- i.e. that the economy is in fact due to crash MUCH more than anyone expects. Then they have done the right thing.

- Posted by Joe

As a general principle, it’s surprise moves which are most likely to help in situations like this. (Anything that the market is expecting will already be priced in, by definition.)

However, I suspect this may turn out to be another example of The Law of Unintended Consequences. I don’t know if there are any tracker mortgage products left by the end of today, but it seems likely that any which remain will be closed to new customers shortly.

If the response by the banks to this cut means that the MPC has lost a large chunk of what little ability it had to influence retail rates, then it could mean that they have shot themselves in the foot.

- Posted by Ian Kemmish

The way that lower interest rates are always celebrated by the media is a reflection of the debt-binging attitudes that created the current crisis. Cheap credit rewards the feckless and punishes prudent savers. Gordon Brown pretended to understand this, but he does not really understand it. We need to get out of this recession by working harder, investing more, and improving our education system. Otherwise, we’re in for more of the same at the end of the next cycle, with even more of our national assets having been sold off to cover our liabilities in the long term.

- Posted by Oliver Chettle

Welcome inflation and farewell common sense!

- Posted by Frederick

No more no less.Three is the magic number.

- Posted by alex

Then who are the creditors to the UK? I mean who owns the UK?

As we have negative interest rates and owe more than we are worth; who does the UK belong to?

The Chinese or the Gulf Co-Operation Council?

Can I theoretically buy English people as slave labour yet?

- Posted by Zen

I think this was an appropriate stance from the BoE given its previous cautious cuts of nuumerous 1/4% but I bellieve a further quick reduction of 1% is required to stave off deflation. Also it will be iniquitous if the banks do not pass this cut on to mortgage and small business loans. Thank you Andy

- Posted by Andrew Marquis

The 1.5 point cut to 3% was necessary because Mr Brown’s mouthpiece - the inept Mr King - skillfully missed all the earlier signals to cut rates when it just might have made some difference. It is unlikely that, whatever cuts are now made, they will make much difference. This government appears to be steering the UK towards a Japan style semi-permanent recession, from which there will be no escape.

So much money has been taken out of the stock markets by the unregulated predators who will never replace what has been lost by ordinary investors, that British industry will be starved of funds with which to expand, for years to come, as bruised investors avoid investing their funds in either the stock market, or in the pension funds that have so casually lent the stocks necessary for this dirty and dishonest game to be played and have lost their value as a result. Another of Mr Brown’s inventions - the inept FSA - has flagged all this through, because Mr B and his socialist team love the filthy rich hedge fund managers, whilst hating the ordinary investor, who can’t be as easily controlled as the simple types with cash in the bank.

Against this backdrop, it doesn’t really matter whether interest rates are 5%, 3%, 1% or 0%. The principles are well established. As long as Merv King (the newly self styled international economist, on instructions from his master at no 10 - independence my rear end) the BBC et al keeps telling everyone the world is heading for catastrophe and the malign practices allowed to continue, so any recovery will prove impossible.

Time for either a detailed investigation by someone who will eventually conclude no-one in government was to blame, or a public enquiry into where this all went wrong (how often have we heard this - let’s get the inspectors in shall we?). Talk about incompetence and dishonesty. This lot has it in spades.

Look again in 2013.

- Posted by roger allways

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