Comments on: Time to reform the Lords? Insights from the UK and beyond Tue, 15 Nov 2016 20:30:03 +0000 hourly 1 By: MW Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:17:49 +0000 One neat way to solve the problem is to abolish it entirely. Unicameral parliaments exist in other European countries, such as Sweden or Hungary, so it’s not entirely implausible a solution.

Also not all upper houses in European states are directly elected. France has a relatively strong presidential system and the Senate is not directly elected by the entire population of France. The German Bundesrat is not directly elected either.

The problem with an entirely elected HoL will be its relationship with the strong executive in the other place. If the HoL is elected, it gains legitimacy and may challenge HoC – if the opposition has a majority in HoL, it can be a nightmare: delaying tactics, wrecking amendments etc. Given the nature of party politics, it’s unlikely that a elected members of the HoL will be independent and the Lords will lose the cross-benchers, who play some part in making the place less party political than the Commons.

Perhaps a complete federalization of the UK is an option, but who knows …

By: Jason Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:49:57 +0000 Labour?
The two things go together. Always have done. Always will.

The only way to reform the Lords to avoid political sleaze is to make it an elected body of people not affiliated to any political party.

By: Entaxei Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:10:03 +0000 Since Labour set out to destroy the Lords because they could not control it, Church leaders have proved themselves to be totally out of touch and more concerned with navel gazing than reality, judges wish to abolish prisons, any form of custodial sentence and more money to assist offenders, courts are being shut down everywhere, political nominees such as Mandelson to get them into power without being elected, any MP whose seat is wanted, is offered a seat in the lords to get them out of the way, increase the size of the Labour element and offer them opportunities for making money on the side for commercial interests as well as employing their family – all in all a honey pot of self interested sleaze.

The only course by which we would get back an independant House of Lords, not subject to any political party, would be to re-establish the hereditary peers as the sole Lords voting force, without any other (new) peers allowed to vote. This system worked before and was trusted, it was also a fresh viewpoint being applied without any political pressure from whips or from monetary considerations.