Comments on: Geert Wilders – martyr for free speech or public safety threat? http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/ Insights from the UK and beyond Thu, 17 Nov 2016 21:18:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: EF Orwell http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-9483 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:49:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-9483 What is all this media hype and double standards over freedom of speech when the very refuge and media watering hole for most of these journalists types, the famous Groucho Club are themselves taking a pre publishing test case to the High Court for libel against the author of a book in writing titled The Groucho Gate Affair. How can any journalist or author with even a shred of integrity sit and socialise in a media club that is trying to stifle the very principal of free speech that these journalists claim they protect. Perhaps these journalists and media types should consider putting their own house in order before they embark on such a noble crusade to protect freedom of speech. Anyone who takes an action for pre publishing liable test cases will if successful change the law for the worst and if this happens then we all lose especially the journalists.
These journalists need to stop the hypocritical babbling and sink your heads in shame. Next time you are having a drink at the famous Groucho Club consider reading up on article 10 and what it means to have free speech

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By: Roger http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7706 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:00:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7706 Geert Wilders should have been allowed to present his film. An elected politician was invited by a British Lord for a private screening. It was not for the the Home or Foreign Secretaries to interfere in the screening. No crimes were planned.

By banning an innocent man the Government has shown abject cowardice. To appease possible violence before it happens is to appease those who intend to beak the law. Wilders does not condone violence and the Lords who were to see the film were most unlikely to cause it. This is appeasement, pure and simple, and it will backfire on the cowards who ordered it.

The “hatred” in the film is not of Wilders’ making; he simply relays it. See the film please.

Truth cannot be suppressed for long: it will eventually prevail.

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By: Mike http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7681 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:33:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7681 I assume, following the explusion of Geert Wilders from these shores for daring to question Islam, that the entire Monty Python team will also be expelled for creating “The Life of Brian”. Or am I missing something.?

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By: Rainbow http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7674 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:33:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7674 He is definitely a threat to public safety. All his film has done is spread hate and racism.

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By: Daniel Rosaupan http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7671 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:24:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7671 Sidney, I agree with you that he will be ridiculed if he made statements against Jews. But if you have read my past comments, I also defended Bishop Williamson’s right to speak as to the truth of the holocaust. I also made strong comments against those who resort to demonizing and name calling rather than presenting solid arguments against his opinion. I And I will make the same comment on your comments. If I were you sidney, present to us reasonable arguments that will overturn our contentions. Conjectures, name calling and demonizing should not be the tone of your comments. Your behaviour only demonstrates how Muslims deal with their dissenters if indeed you are a Muslim.

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By: R.K. Hopkins http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7669 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:19:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7669 Wilders should categorically not have been banned from the UK. Almost everything published is offensive to someone ; you either have freedom of speech, or you
don’t – there’s no intermediate position. In Britain,
we most certainly don’t any longer have free speeach.

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By: sidney http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7665 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:54:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7665 I love reading some of the comments by people such as daniel,apparently he is an exper on islam, perhaps u might what muslims call an “imam” a spiritual leader, seeing that you are able to tell all of us “what islam really is” and the fact that you are able to translate the what the quran says. perhaps if your knowledge was based on a more educated and correct basis, you would’ve avoided looking a ignorant bigot, much like Geet Widers. going back to my comment earlier, if this man had made comments that were considered “anti-semetic” he would’ve been blasted and ridiculed, but since he made comments against islam, he is considered ” a hero” and “brave”. Seeing the type of ignorance and stupidity that exists in this world, its easy to see why the world is in the state that it is in today. stupidty, ignorance, and hypocrisy have replaced education, morality, and rationality.

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By: Daniel Rosaupan http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7663 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:34:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7663 I really admire Geert Wilders for having the courage to expose the truth about Islam. Even the son of Hamas founding leader Mosab Hassan Yousef made a prior statement similar to that of Wilders. He should have not been barred from entering UK since I don’t think that telling the truth is a crime! This is not a matter of being an Anti Islam but this is a matter of what is the truth and how will people be liberated from a religion that condones violence. Qur’an according to Mosab teaches violence especially in dealing with people whom they consider as infidels. Islam also teaches to kill any Muslim who changes his religion. And these teachings are being uphold by terrorist organizations such as Al Qaeda and Taliban. No matter how Muslim scholars would like to tone down this truth about their religion, it will still remain a religion of violence especially when they are dealing with non Muslims.

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By: Moe El-Gamal http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7659 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:29:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7659 I am not questioning Mr. Wilders motives or feelings about Muslims and Islam, and as a freeman he has the right to express his views hopefully in a fair and balanced manner. Mr. Wilders expressed on several occasions that he was not against Muslims but against Islam and he wants to ban the Quran. He yet advocates “freedom of speech”!. Is the freedom of speech a right only for a few like him and not for “others”?

As strong believer of Freedom of Speech, I would like to invite Mr. Wilders for a debate that I would like to do even though I am not a religious authority and not a politicians but ordinary professional. This debate should be in a public forum so the people can judge his views. I have faith in the people’s judgment.

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By: Jason http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/2009/02/13/geert-wilders-martyr-for-free-speech-of-public-safety-threat/comment-page-1/#comment-7652 Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:59:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/uknews/?p=1823#comment-7652 It is instructive that any real or implied criticism of Islam is met by vitriolic abuse and threats of violence from those who claim that the Koran teaches “tolerance” and “peace”.

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