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05:51 November 2nd, 2009

Was drugs scientist right to speak out?

Posted by: Stephen Addison
Tags: Great Debate UK, , , , ,

drugsThe government’s attitude towards science is under the microscope this week over accusations that expert advice is being ignored if it fails to fit prevailing political agendas.

The row has been prompted by the sacking of the government’s chief drug adviser, Professor David Nutt, who has been making statements that do not fit in with the government’s hard line on drugs. Two of his colleagues resigned in protest over the weekend and more may follow.

Nutt has criticsed the Home Office decision to upgrade cannabis to a Class B drug, saying it is less harmful than alcohol and nicotine. He has previously said taking ecstasy is less dangerous than horse-riding and that consideration should be given to downgrading the classification of both ecstasy and LSD.

Liberal Democrat science spokesman Dr Evan Harris says: ”I fear there will be many more resignations unless the government acts to restore confidence among its independent scientific advisers.”

Home Secretary Alan Johnson says Nutt was sacked because he crossed the line between an advisor and a campaigner. ”You can do one or the other. You can’t do both,” he insisted.

Do you think Johnson has a point?

6 comments so far

He was right to resign. What was wrong was the timing - he should have resigned before making his private opinions publicly known and not after.

It’s clear that, even where the science is not in question, policy is almost never determined by science alone - if it were there would be no need for politicians! There are always other factors to consider.

Plus, Prof Nutt also appears not to have noticed, or perhaps doesn’t care, that in matters of public health, variable, inconclusive, or disputed advice is usually worse than no advice at all. In his particular area, government and advisors should take care to sing from one hymn sheet.

Heading an advisory panel gives one a privileged line of communication into the cabinet. As always, with privilege comes obligation - in this case, the obligation to keep one’s mouth closed until after one has resigned.

- Posted by Ian Kemmish

As a life long smoker of cannabis I would like to speak out for the people that you don’t hear about; those people who’s lives have been made a living hell by a drug that everyone calls benign. All of the so - called experts suggest that it does not harm people’s health. That may be true in some cases, but ‘pot heads’ are not just friendly stoners that need to get a life. We are addicts. We get no help from the government to give up, and we get no sympathy from society. Some people can smoke pot once or twice a week and get on with their lives - I really envy those people. For many of us, in our thirties or older it really is a problem. I’m not upset with Dr. Nutt for speaking out about what he feels is the truth, I’m upset that he doesn’t know the truth and he’s the chief medical advisor. This country needs joined up policy on drugs, classifying drugs as A, B or C makes no difference to whether or not people take them, it just determines the sentence that criminals and vulnerable people spend in jail.

- Posted by A. Nonymous

As Churchill famously said : “Experts should be on tap, not on top.” Prof. Nutt , by speaking out against the government, has forgotten his position as being ‘on tap’ and the government were absolutely right to sack him. Who cares if his ‘other colleagues’ go as well? What a petty threat that is. As A.Nomynous says above, you need people who understand the basic chemistry of drugs in this kind of job, and as Prof. Nutt obviously doesn’t or chooses to ignore the known negative sides of the chemistry for political reasons, he is wholly unsuitable for the position anyway. Good Riddance. The facts remain: despite what pop stars, liberal politicians and politically-motivated professors tell you, cannabis is harmful. Everyone I ever knew from school and college who were regular users underwent a permanent personality change over the years as well as their facial features changing permanently to that classic ‘washed out’ look. They are now all paranoid and negative about life. And as for ‘harmless to other people’ - I could be rendered dangerous to drive from breathing in somebody else’s cannabis smoke if it were ever legalized/decriminalized like in the Netherlands - you cannot make another driver ‘over the top’ from passive drinking like you could from passive smoking - so in this one respect at least, alcohol is far safer than cannabis. Incompetent on the subject, and speaking above his paymasters - two very good reasons to dump this fool.

- Posted by nick

Nick,

As a professor and the head of the Psychopharmacology Unit at the University of Bristol, it’s likely that Nutt understands well the basic chemistry of drugs. Nothing he has said suggests otherwise.

Neither is he saying cannabis is not harmful - he states quite clearly “Cannabis is a harmful drug” in the paper that caused this furore in the first place.

The point is is that it is less harmful than either alcohol or tobacco, and this is backed up by evidence. Nonetheless they are artificially separated for the purposes of measuring harm because the latter two are legal. Consequently he calls for a system of classification which more accurately reflects the relative risks associated with harmful drugs, and which includes legal harmful drugs such as alcohol and tobacco.

The original paper is worth reading:

http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/opus17 14/Estimating_drug_harms.pdf

And are you really suggesting that legalizing cannabis is likely to cause anything like the number of fatalities we currently see due to drivers being under the influence of alcohol?

jon h.

By the way, despite them having never come near cannabis I know many people who share the symptoms you describe to be afflicting your friends. It’s called getting old.

- Posted by jon h

Jon H.

‘Getting old’ is not the same as being too nervous or paranoid to answer the phone, getting regular panic attacks, lacking the motivation to get out of bed in the morning, permanent fatigue, confusion, depression, loss of short term memory and ermm.. loss of short term memory. I don’t think that cannabis causes fatalities, I think it wrecks lives - which is worse? I disagree that it is less harmful than tobacco - people can still function normally after smoking tobacco. But yes it may be less harmful than drinking alcohol, except that there is an acceptance amongst young people of people getting up and smoking cannabis all day long - if people were to do the same with alcohol people would immediately recognise that they had a problem.
It’s also related to smoking tobacco; cannabis smokers are often addicted to ’spliffs’ which are a combination of cannabis and tobacco - if you decide to give up one but not the other and then someone offers you a spliff at a party it’s very easy to fall back into smoking both.
I just feel that ‘experts’ and politicians are not in tune with what cannabis does and how to deal with the problem or even recognise that there is a problem. If the government wants advice on how to deal with drugs, it should consult a range of experts, including the long term users.

- Posted by A. Nonymous

I think there is right and wrong on both sides in this argument. Scientists may be very clever people, but it doesn’t mean they necessarily have wisdom. Politicians may be very ignorant people, but even as such they may have a handle on what is the right “public” policy. The comments about ecstasy and horseriding were, frankly, just downright silly. You would tick off a sixth-former for coming out with such a jejune argument in a debating competition. Everyone should know perfectly well that relative harm is far from being the sole criterion upon which we devise the rules governing our society. If it were, active membership of Al Qaeda would be a less serious offence than owning a car, the sale of alcohol would be punishable by death, and reading The Sun or the Daily Mail would result in compulsory electric shock therapy and possible lobotomy.

- Posted by Matthew

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