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Darkening outlook for UK housing
The outlook for the UK housing market has darkened again. The usually optimistic bunch of property market watchers polled by Reuters, who have tended to predict ever-rising property prices no matter what the season or financial climate, now say the market will move sideways for the next two years.
They say that in the next few months, the small double-dip in prices that has begun will continue. Modest gains predicted less than three months ago for this year and next essentially have been wiped away.
No one should be surprised by this. It smacks of an awakening to reality more than a slight change to a few variables in the statistical model. What’s perhaps most striking about these new poll results is that economists think houses are even more overvalued now than they were in July even after a few straight months of falls.
The poll found the proportion of property market watchers who expect a double-dip in prices has swung to a three-quarters majority from about one in four minority in July. As polls go, that is a big shift in sentiment in a very short period of time. The consensus points to a 5 percent fall from here on top of the 1.4 percent fall over the last two months, but the forecast range goes as far down as 22.5 percent from here.
That tallies with anecdotal evidence. A friend who is heavily invested in London property says he's having trouble selling and says a 15-20 percent fall in the market is likely.
Transaction volumes in Britain’s property market have slowed to a trickle, mortgage approvals are low, and banks are now asking for huge deposits and making rigorous income and credit checks before lending huge sums of money.
Rents are rising again after years of stagnation because people either can’t afford to buy or are scared to buy ahead of another potential fall in prices.
please help- bought a flat as investment- now want to sell- been told that morgage companies will not give morgages on our flat to anyone as it is made from concrete, however our orgingal survery, 2yrs previous was incorrect and did not say that and we were given a morgage on incorrect details, bank wont do anything about it, and surveyors company says we can sue but still wont be able to sell.
what can we do?
Lindsey
from MacroScope:
UK house prices close to a trough?
MacroScope is pleased to post the following from guest blogger Simon Ward. Simon is chief economist of Henderson Global Investors in London and previously worked for New Star Asset Management and Lombard Street Research. His own blog is Money Moves Markets.
UK house prices are no longer expensive relative to a measure of "fair value" based on rents. Prices fell significantly below fair value during the major house price busts in the 1970s and 1990s but a big undershoot is unlikely in the current downturn because low interest rates will limit forced selling.
The notion that housing is no longer overvalued is controversial because the house price to income ratio remains far above its average since 1965. This average, however, is unlikely to be a good guide to fair value because the ratio has trended higher over time, reflecting factors such as improving quality, the pressure of an expanding population on constrained supply and a high income elasticity of demand for housing.
An alternative approach is to use rents rather than income as the basis of comparison. Rents already incorporate fundamental influences on housing demand and supply. People need to live somewhere – the choice is between buying your own home or renting, not between spending money on housing or retaining income for other purposes.
An economy-wide rental yield can be calculated from national accounts data by dividing the sum of actual rental payments and imputed rents of owner-occupiers by the value of the housing stock. The yield averaged 3.6 percent between 1965 and 2007. This seems low but the measure includes subsidised social housing and takes account of vacant properties.
The housing boom pushed the rental yield down to 2.8 percent at the end of 2007, suggesting that prices were then overvalued by about 29 percent, based on the 3.6 percent long-run average. The Halifax index has fallen by 21 percent since December 2007, while rents had grown 6 percent by the fourth quarter of last year. These changes imply a current yield of about 3.8 percent, consistent with small undervaluation.
The rental yield rose well above the 3.6 percent long-run average during prior housing busts. If the overshoot in the current downturn were to equal the undershoot during the boom, the yield would rise to 4.4 percent. This would be consistent with a further fall in prices of about 14 percent, assuming unchanged rents. A decline of this order is widely expected.
Green shoots in the housing market?
House prices have dropped, interest rates are low and plenty of people are straining at the leash to get on the housing ladder.
Now the Nationwide Building Society says house prices have risen for the first time since October 2007.
The Nationwide cautioned about jumping to conclusions on the basis of one month’s figures but the news was enough to send the pound up against the dollar and some analysts said it was more evidence that the battered housing market may be recovering.
On the other hand mortgages have become much harder to get and rising unemployment is working against any recovery.
What do you think? Is it premature to start talking of green shoots in housing?
Incomes are not rising and getting a mortgage seems to be harder than ever. Add this to the fact that whilst house prices may have come off 20%+ (depending on which survey you use) and that 3 to 4 years ago when house prices were around 20%+ cheaper than at their peak commentators were saying then that houses were out of reach of many people.
Green shoots? Greenshoots my backside.
Web round-up: More gloom and doom on house prices
There was more gloomy news for the housing market today as property website Rightmove announced that asking prices for houses in England and Wales were 9 percent lower than a year ago. New listings meanwhile were 57 percent lower than March 2008. The average asking price actually increased by 0.9 percent between February and March this year, but Rightmove warned that this was caused by new sellers being unrealistic about how much their homes are worth.
So what can be done to revive the stagnant housing market? Citywire has one radical suggestion: make sellers pay stamp duty rather than the buyers. Every year there are calls to abolish or reform this “flawed tax”, but Citywire’s Lorna Bourke says that making this switch would be an incentive to first-time buyers and would cost the government nothing. What sellers would say about this, however, is another story.
Citywire also comments on the recent report by Numis Securities in which they said that house prices could have another 40-55 percent to fall before bottoming out. Ouch. David Smith, writing in this weekend’s The Sunday Times, dismissed this report as “unconvincing.” Smith writes that the chances of the average house price in the UK slipping to £66,000 from the current £150,000 are slim, especially as interest in the market and new buyer inquiries are rising.
The Numis report predicting the rather frightening fall in house prices has sparked a great deal of debate on the web; it is the most commented on article on thisismoney.co.uk.
Even if you did want to buy, what are your chances of securing a mortgage? Not good, according to Rupert Jones writing in the Observer. Fewer than 9,000 first-time buyers were able to take out a home loan during January and the average first-timer’s deposit was a new high of 24 percent of the value of the property. So while buyer inquiries may indeed be on the up, raising the finance to actually buy a property is becoming harder and harder.
And it could be about to get even more difficult. Telegraph.co.uk reports that home buyers could be prevented from borrowing more than three times their annual salaries under new mortgage rules to be announced by the Financial Services Authority.
All of which raises a number of important questions about you and your home. Is it a good time to sell or buy? Would you be better off renting? What sort of mortgage should you apply for? Thankfully, there are a number of great tools on the web to help you decide.
Housing market: what is your prediction?
One thing looks to be sure this year – the housing market has further to fall. Some of the gloomiest predictions are for a further 20 percent slump before a recovery may set in.
Our own Reuters poll of 37 analysts at UK banks, published today, predicts that prices are likely to drop by about 11 percent this year and that it will take until 2010 before it gets better.
How much do you think house prices will fall in 2009?
I wouldn’t be listening to the “experts”. It’s actually astounding that they were so far off the mark, compared to some of the more informed blogs out there.
As for property prices, they need to get back down to a sensible and sustainable multiple of average earnings. Someone needs to be able to buy a home, for their family to live in, for three times their salary of, say £24 000.00.
No, I didn’t say “investment”, I said “for their family to live in”, that’s what houses are for.
Negative equity nightmare returns as house prices drop
It’s every houseowner’s worst nightmare – and it’s official now: more than a million households could fall into negative equity if the housing slump continues, the Bank of England said today.
Growing numbers of home owners could be forced to sell their properties at a loss, as the property downturn gathers pace and vendors run out of options.
The scope of the negative equity nightmare could be massive. The BoE said that a 15 percent drop in prices from their October 2007 peak would leave one in 10 homeowners with outstanding mortgage debt worth more than the value of their home. Earlier this week the Centre for Economics and Business research predicted that the average cost of a UK home will fall up to 40,000 pounds by the end of 2009.
First-time buyers are among those hardest hit and buy-to-let landlords may fall behind on mortgage payments or may be forced to sell at a loss as lending dries up.
And if that’s not gloomy enough – two further sets of figures provided more bleak news for the housing market on Tuesday.
The Financial Services Authority said the number of home repossessions in the second quarter rose to 11,054 from 9,172 in the previous three months. And according to the Land Registry, the average price of a house in September was 168,814 pounds, down another 2.2 percent on the month, a far cry from around 200,000 pounds seen at the peak last summer.
There are some who do fall foul of this for which some sympathy is due – the first time buyers. These are generally younger people, often with their own young family who are scrimping to afford their own house as they can see the benefit of owning a property rather than paying out as much, if not more, to live in a place and never have anything they can call their own.
Houses are a nice way of “feeling” well off but, unless you can trade down market, they are never a way of making money and should not be considered as such unless you are a housebuilder. Even they are struggling though.
Why do we have an obsession with “negative equity”. It is, as has already been said, only an issue if you NEED to move house. Most of us do not, we want to move to better ourselves – we should learn to live within our means first.
Housing market recovery not until 2023?
When exactly the housing market will recover is anyone’s guess and gloomy predictions abound. One academic says it even could take as long as 15 years.
Andrew Clare, a professor of asset management at Cass Business School in London, used futures contracts based on the Halifax house price index to figure out his dire prediction. He calculated that in 2010 the average will be 40 percent lower than the peak of 199,600 pounds in August last year – about 120,000 pounds.
That’s particularly bad news for those who bought a house last summer, and Clare predicts that negative equity will be “a big feature of our economic landscape for years to come.”
The Halifax said last week house prices dropped at their fastest rate in September since records were first kept 25 years ago, with the average average price down 13.3 percent.
Looking back over the last 40 years or so, periods of real house price growth (relative to RPI) have been followed by equally long (or short) periods of real negative growth. This time round, we’ve had about 12 years of real growth, so we could now get 12 years of negative real growth.
This talk of prices bottoming out in a year or two takes no account of what’s happened in past slumps – in the 90′s it took about 7 years peak to trough, so why do people think it’ll be only three years this time round? Short memories.
You know things are bad when..
- You know exactly what the population of Iceland is and can also pronounce the name of its prime minister.
- Even the word ‘crisis’ seems to have lost its currency.
- Countries pop up for sale on eBay for 99p and get few offers.
- Posters on BBC messageboards stop discussing the undulating pitch of Robert Peston’s voice and listen to what he’s actually saying.
- The speech bubble on Page 3 of the Sun is given over to discussing the credit crisis.
- Financial market updates displace stories about Jade Goody on the tabloid front pages.
- Bad news stories from government departments are rushed out day after day and not even the Opposition seems to notice.
- Estate agents finally admit house prices have fallen but tell you now is a really great time to buy because the market is stabilising.
- People marketing get-rich-quick property seminars don’t get taken seriously any more.
- The Chancellor, writing in the Financial Times, says that “now, more than ever, we need new ideas”.
- Your primary school-aged children know that credit crunch is not a type of biscuit and that IMF isn’t just a fictional organisation in Mission Impossible.
- You go for a while without noticing one estate agent’s mini and then you see a whole bunch of them on the back of a car transporter.
- A pensioner on the evening tube train from Canary Wharf gives up her seat to a banker because she reckons he might need it.
- The Ivy rings to ask if you’d like a table tonight or any night.
- There are no spare trolleys when you turn up at Aldi to do your weekly shop.
Do you have any better suggestions? All contributions welcome – please send in your selection.
You know things are bad when:
Staff sickness absence suddenly improves and everyone’s happy at work.
The sight of a yellow Netto carrier bag becomes familiar.
You discover the cat actually likes tinned cat food.
The family can’t tell organic from not.
A lot of people consider home made sandwiches are far better for one than bought.
Gordon Brown is photographed smiling.
Skiing holidays become unfashionable.
You find that last years winter coat still has a lot of wear in it.
The car doesn’t need as much petrol as once and seems to be running too well to exchange it this year.
You know how the balance of your bank account/ credit card.
Comeback for the Misery Index
Credit crunch, surging food prices, rising unemployment, house prices tumbling, maybe even a recession …. isn’t it all enough to make you feel miserable? And I’m not even mentioning the dismal British summer weather.
And all that desolation can be measured – the Misery Index is a financial pain barometer measured by adding the rate of inflation to the unemployment level.
Financial Web site Money Morning points out in a note that it now stands at a 12-year-high of 9.8 percent in Britain (consumer price inflation of 4.4 percent plus unemployment rate of 5.4 percent).
Not the most scientific approach but the index’s founder, American economist Arthur Okun, based it on the assumption that a higher rate of unemployment and a worsening of inflation both create economic and social costs for a country. Some analysts also argue that the rate of crime and the misery index correlate strongly.
During the Presidential campaign of 1976, Democratic candidate Jimmy Carter made frequent references to the Misery Index, which by the summer of 1976 was at 13.57 percent. Carter stated that no man responsible for giving a country a misery index that high, had a right to even ask to be President. The remark may have haunted him somewhat as four years later it had soared to 22 percent and Ronald Reagan won the election.
While 22 percent sounds high, spare a thought for the British consumer. Money Morning points out that in the summer of 1974, the UK Misery Index climbed well into the 30s, as annual inflation topped 26 percent and the country was hit by the three-day week. Then after a hitting a low of 13 percent by mid-1978, the index took off again after the “Winter of Discontent”, reaching 26 in the early months of Margaret Thatcher’s reign as Prime Minister.
More gloom and doom to come – is it all getting too much? You could try and listen to Baltimore-based death metal band “Misery Index” with its anti-consumerist lyrics or buy one of their T-shirts stating that “Ignorance is Bliss”.
More doom and gloom to come? I think so.
A chocolate banana for everyone who can guess which government was in power between 1974 and “the early months of Margaret Thatcher’s reign”, ie 1979, the quoted last two highs of the Misery Index.
But things were set to change:
“we will end damaging economic instability”
“we will abolish the cycle of boom and bust”
“we will not spend money we have not earned”
“never again will we allow the retirement plans of tens of thousands to be ruined”
Gordon Brown, September 1999
Looks like he’s going for the hat-trick.
















